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    Israel and UAE Agree to Establish Ties; Annexation Is Halted

    (Bloomberg) -- Israel and the United Arab Emirates reached an agreement to work toward fully normalized relations, a potentially historic breakthrough that U.S. President Donald Trump said will facilitate peace in the Mideast.

    The move means the UAE would join Egypt and Jordan as the only Arab countries with normal ties with Israel, signaling the nations will send ambassadors and open more direct commercial relations. According to a joint statement on Thursday, the UAE and Israel will begin a range of talks in the “coming weeks,” while Israel also agreed to suspend efforts to declare sovereignty over parts of the West Bank.

    As part of the deal, Israel also agreed to suspend controversial moves to annex portions of the West Bank, an effort that was widely seen as having put any final peace agreement further from reach.

    The deal is a “significant” step toward peace in the Mideast, Trump told reporters in the Oval Office, while the joint statement said a signing ceremony will take place at the White House.

    Ties between Israel and Gulf Arab states have warmed in recent years, in large part due to a shared distrust of Iran. But they haven’t ripened into open relations, let alone normalization.

    “The announcement is big and the White House will be able to claim that it has achieved a breakthrough in the traditional wall of divide in Arab-Israeli relations,” said Ayham Kamel, a Mideast expert at the Eurasia Group. Aaron David Miller, a senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment and former Mideast official at the State Department, called the accord a “win for all 3” nations.

    Comments from the leader of the UAE, Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Zayed, were more nuanced than the remarks from Trump and in the joint statement issued by the White House.

    “During a call with President Trump and Prime Minister Netanyahu, an agreement was reached to stop further Israeli annexation of Palestinian territories,” bin Zayed wrote on Twitter. “The UAE and Israel also agreed to cooperation and setting a roadmap towards establishing a bilateral relationship.”

    Nevertheless, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, called it “a historic day” in Hebrew on Twitter and said he would speak publicly later in the day. Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi wrote on Twitter that he followed the agreement and its efforts to foster peace “with attention and appreciation.”

    Pushback came swiftly from Palestinian officials. Hanan Ashrawi, a member of the Palestine Liberation Organization’s executive committee, writing on Twitter that “Israel got rewarded for not declaring openly what it’s been doing to Palestine illegally & persistently since the beginning of the occupation. The UAE has come out in the open on its secret dealings/normalization with Israel. Please don’t do us a favor. We are nobody’s fig leaf!”

    Officials with Hamas, the U.S.-designated terrorist organization that runs the Gaza Strip, were more blunt. Hamas spokesman Fawzi Barhoum told Al Jazeera that the move was a “stab against the Palestinian cause and will encourage the Israeli occupation to commit more aggression against our people.”

    The joint statement published by the White House suggested the move will reverberate across the Mideast, and Trump said there is “a lot more to come.”

    “This historic diplomatic breakthrough will advance peace in the Middle East region and is a testament to the bold diplomacy and vision of the three leaders and the courage of the United Arab Emirates and Israel to chart a new path that will unlock the great potential in the region,” according to the statement from the U.S., Israel and the UAE.

    The announcement could be a diplomatic coup for Netanyahu at a time when he is under intense fire at home from mass protests against his government’s mishandling of the coronavirus and his continued leadership while under indictment in three criminal cases.

    A White House signing ceremony would also help Trump -- lagging in the polls ahead of November’s election -- evoke the spirit of the original peace deal between Israel, Egypt and Jordan, facilitated by then President Jimmy Carter as part of the Camp David accords in 1978.

    Trump later joked to reporters in the Oval Office that he wanted the new agreement “to be called the Donald J. Trump accord.”

    The president has long sought a Mideast breakthrough that would allow him to withdraw U.S. troops from the region and get out of what he called “endless wars.” He’s also sought to strengthen an anti-Iran alliance in the region, led by Saudi Arabia.

    At the beginning of his term in 2017, Trump called upon his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, to help broker a big Mideast deal, though his efforts had largely stalled. Trump’s move early in his term to move the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, and his decision to recognize Israeli sovereignty of the Golan Heights, quickly alienated Palestinian officials and much of the Arab world, leaving Kushner’s peace plan -- which effectively sanctioned Israeli annexation of much of the West Bank -- with few champions in the region.

    The backdown on the West Bank may have helped seal the agreement, analysts said.

    “The timing of the move also allows Netanyahu and Trump to climb elegantly down the annexation tree, when neither leader has the stomach to follow through on what would likely have been be a destabilizing move in the region,” said Shalom Lipner, a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council who has served seven Israeli prime ministers.

    The decision by the UAE may also be seen as a prelude for its far bigger neighbor, Saudi Arabia, which has close ties with the UAE and has been viewed as informal contacts with Israel. Trump has made the U.S. relationship with Saudi Arabia the centerpiece of his Mideast strategy.

    Kamel of the Eurasia Group said Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman will inevitably follow the UAE’s lead but that will take longer as “his society is more conservative and succession politics adds a layer of complications. However, Riyadh will eventually move in a similar direction, albeit at a slower pace and with hesitation given the risks.”

    ....
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Israel and UAE Agree to Establish Ties; Annexation Is Halted

    (Bloomberg) -- Israel and the United Arab Emirates reached an agreement to work toward fully normalized relations, a potentially historic breakthrough that U.S. President Donald Trump said will facilitate peace in the Mideast.

    The move means the UAE would join Egypt and Jordan as the only Arab countries with normal ties with Israel, signaling the nations will send ambassadors and open more direct commercial relations. According to a joint statement on Thursday, the UAE and Israel will begin a range of talks in the “coming weeks,” while Israel also agreed to suspend efforts to declare sovereignty over parts of the West Bank.

    As part of the deal, Israel also agreed to suspend controversial moves to annex portions of the West Bank, an effort that was widely seen as having put any final peace agreement further from reach.

    The deal is a “significant” step toward peace in the Mideast, Trump told reporters in the Oval Office, while the joint statement said a signing ceremony will take place at the White House.

    Ties between Israel and Gulf Arab states have warmed in recent years, in large part due to a shared distrust of Iran. But they haven’t ripened into open relations, let alone normalization.

    “The announcement is big and the White House will be able to claim that it has achieved a breakthrough in the traditional wall of divide in Arab-Israeli relations,” said Ayham Kamel, a Mideast expert at the Eurasia Group. Aaron David Miller, a senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment and former Mideast official at the State Department, called the accord a “win for all 3” nations.

    Comments from the leader of the UAE, Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Zayed, were more nuanced than the remarks from Trump and in the joint statement issued by the White House.

    “During a call with President Trump and Prime Minister Netanyahu, an agreement was reached to stop further Israeli annexation of Palestinian territories,” bin Zayed wrote on Twitter. “The UAE and Israel also agreed to cooperation and setting a roadmap towards establishing a bilateral relationship.”

    Nevertheless, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, called it “a historic day” in Hebrew on Twitter and said he would speak publicly later in the day. Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi wrote on Twitter that he followed the agreement and its efforts to foster peace “with attention and appreciation.”

    Pushback came swiftly from Palestinian officials. Hanan Ashrawi, a member of the Palestine Liberation Organization’s executive committee, writing on Twitter that “Israel got rewarded for not declaring openly what it’s been doing to Palestine illegally & persistently since the beginning of the occupation. The UAE has come out in the open on its secret dealings/normalization with Israel. Please don’t do us a favor. We are nobody’s fig leaf!”

    Officials with Hamas, the U.S.-designated terrorist organization that runs the Gaza Strip, were more blunt. Hamas spokesman Fawzi Barhoum told Al Jazeera that the move was a “stab against the Palestinian cause and will encourage the Israeli occupation to commit more aggression against our people.”

    The joint statement published by the White House suggested the move will reverberate across the Mideast, and Trump said there is “a lot more to come.”

    “This historic diplomatic breakthrough will advance peace in the Middle East region and is a testament to the bold diplomacy and vision of the three leaders and the courage of the United Arab Emirates and Israel to chart a new path that will unlock the great potential in the region,” according to the statement from the U.S., Israel and the UAE.

    The announcement could be a diplomatic coup for Netanyahu at a time when he is under intense fire at home from mass protests against his government’s mishandling of the coronavirus and his continued leadership while under indictment in three criminal cases.

    A White House signing ceremony would also help Trump -- lagging in the polls ahead of November’s election -- evoke the spirit of the original peace deal between Israel, Egypt and Jordan, facilitated by then President Jimmy Carter as part of the Camp David accords in 1978.

    Trump later joked to reporters in the Oval Office that he wanted the new agreement “to be called the Donald J. Trump accord.”

    The president has long sought a Mideast breakthrough that would allow him to withdraw U.S. troops from the region and get out of what he called “endless wars.” He’s also sought to strengthen an anti-Iran alliance in the region, led by Saudi Arabia.

    At the beginning of his term in 2017, Trump called upon his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, to help broker a big Mideast deal, though his efforts had largely stalled. Trump’s move early in his term to move the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, and his decision to recognize Israeli sovereignty of the Golan Heights, quickly alienated Palestinian officials and much of the Arab world, leaving Kushner’s peace plan -- which effectively sanctioned Israeli annexation of much of the West Bank -- with few champions in the region.

    The backdown on the West Bank may have helped seal the agreement, analysts said.

    “The timing of the move also allows Netanyahu and Trump to climb elegantly down the annexation tree, when neither leader has the stomach to follow through on what would likely have been be a destabilizing move in the region,” said Shalom Lipner, a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council who has served seven Israeli prime ministers.

    The decision by the UAE may also be seen as a prelude for its far bigger neighbor, Saudi Arabia, which has close ties with the UAE and has been viewed as informal contacts with Israel. Trump has made the U.S. relationship with Saudi Arabia the centerpiece of his Mideast strategy.

    Kamel of the Eurasia Group said Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman will inevitably follow the UAE’s lead but that will take longer as “his society is more conservative and succession politics adds a layer of complications. However, Riyadh will eventually move in a similar direction, albeit at a slower pace and with hesitation given the risks.”

    ....
    Finally, a bit of potential good news in a year full of one bad thing... after... another.

    Wait. Did you say that Trump was involved in it? Oh. That's different.

    If there is a slight chance that things could improve in this world and Trump could even only be fractionally involved, then we need to put a stop to this travesty before it becomes a tragedy.

    It would be far better for the world if they went to war than if peace were to breakout if Trump is in any way involved with the latter.





    I figured that I'd just say what so many of the TDS crowd apparently feel.

    I'm always still in trouble again

    "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
    "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
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    • #3
      The narrative is that it happened by itself and Trump is just taking credit for it.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Sparko View Post
        The narrative is that it happened by itself and Trump is just taking credit for it.
        Yup, and, hey, these things happen all the time, right?
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • #5
          The peace won't last. Scripture says so.


          Securely anchored to the Rock amid every storm of trial, testing or tribulation.

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          • #6
            Works for me.

            So long as it doesn't resemble the Jimmy-Carter-Camp-David-Peace-Accord-$3billion-A-Year-Extortion-Racket that Israel and Egypt agreed to.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
              Yup, and, hey, these things happen all the time, right?
              Well it wasn't going to happen under Obama after the way he treated Israel.

              All of the parties involved with it are saying that Trump did indeed have a large hand in it. But they must just be in his pocket. Or he is their puppet.

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              • #8
                Seems there's disagreements about what this peace agreement actually entails, at the moment it suspends Israel's plans to annex the West Bank, but Netanyahu states that it is still Israel's intention to annex that region. So we'll see what comes of it. However I'm cautiously optimistic about this peace deal between these two countries.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by mossrose View Post
                  The peace won't last. Scripture says so.
                  I'm like.... do Christians really think this is reason to celebrate? Am I missing something here?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by seanD View Post
                    I'm like.... do Christians really think this is reason to celebrate? Am I missing something here?
                    I started the thread because I think it's important historically - not necessarily from a Christian perspective -- which is why I started in Civics.
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by seanD View Post
                      I'm like.... do Christians really think this is reason to celebrate? Am I missing something here?
                      I'm not celebrating the fact that this peace won't last, if that's what you are saying (since I'm not quite sure....).

                      It's hard for me to not look at current events through the eyes of "how does this correlate to what scripture says". What disturbs me is that Christians applaud this sort of thing without using an eye toward the fact that there will be no lasting peace until the Lord returns.


                      Securely anchored to the Rock amid every storm of trial, testing or tribulation.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by mossrose View Post
                        I'm not celebrating the fact that this peace won't last, if that's what you are saying (since I'm not quite sure....).

                        It's hard for me to not look at current events through the eyes of "how does this correlate to what scripture says". What disturbs me is that Christians applaud this sort of thing without using an eye toward the fact that there will be no lasting peace until the Lord returns.
                        I confess that my interest in this is very much personal -- I want to visit Jerusalem one more time, and not worry about being caught in yet another Jewish/Arab war.
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by mossrose View Post
                          I'm not celebrating the fact that this peace won't last, if that's what you are saying (since I'm not quite sure....).

                          It's hard for me to not look at current events through the eyes of "how does this correlate to what scripture says". What disturbs me is that Christians applaud this sort of thing without using an eye toward the fact that there will be no lasting peace until the Lord returns.
                          I'll hold my peace. I'll just say, I expect darfius to make a thread about this in the eschatological section any day now claiming Trump is the antichrist.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by seanD View Post
                            I'll hold my peace. I'll just say, I expect darfius to make a thread about this in the eschatological section any day now claiming Trump is the antichrist.
                            He's NOT?
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                              Finally, a bit of potential good news in a year full of one bad thing... after... another.

                              Wait. Did you say that Trump was involved in it? Oh. That's different.

                              If there is a slight chance that things could improve in this world and Trump could even only be fractionally involved, then we need to put a stop to this travesty before it becomes a tragedy.

                              It would be far better for the world if they went to war than if peace were to breakout if Trump is in any way involved with the latter.





                              I figured that I'd just say what so many of the TDS crowd apparently feel.
                              This is worse than I first thought! According to a report on Newsy that I heard this morning it was Trump along with his son-in-law (acronym "SIN" -- a coincidence? I think not!) Jared Kushner are personally responsible for brokering the deal.

                              Now we know beyond a shadow of any doubt that this deal must, Must, MUST be scuttled! RESIST!!1!!eleventy-one!
                              Last edited by rogue06; 08-14-2020, 12:06 PM.

                              I'm always still in trouble again

                              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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