Do you believe that people who say that the Bible forbids public nudity are teaching the doctrines of men? That is, they have zero biblical warrant from the New Covenant that affirms their position?
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Originally posted by foudroyant View PostDo you believe that people who say that the Bible forbids public nudity are teaching the doctrines of men? That is, they have zero biblical warrant from the New Covenant that affirms their position?
That is, let each do as his own conscience permits or dictates without attempting to force his views on another.
As long as no-one tries to declare that his own view is right and the opposing view wrong, everything is sweet.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by foudroyant View PostMy view is right because there is no prohibition against it.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostThere's no prohibition against prayer to the saints, therefore my view is right! I'm guessing you won't accept that argument, however.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostThere's no prohibition against prayer to the saints, therefore my view is right! I'm guessing you won't accept that argument, however.
This argument of yours was already attempted in Post #273.
http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...ng-Mary/page28
It didn't work there nor will it work here.
Plus the fact I can cite at least one passage where public nudity took place and God approved it.
Guess how many passage you can cite that God gives the ok to pray to created beings?
---> Zero.Last edited by foudroyant; 08-01-2014, 09:28 AM.
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Originally posted by foudroyant View PostYes there is. Prayer is worship and God alone is to be worshiped. (Luke 4:8)
This argument of yours was already attempted in Post #273.
http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...ng-Mary/page28
It didn't work there nor will it work here.
Plus the fact I can cite at least one passage where public nudity took place and God approved it.
Guess how many passage you can cite that God gives the ok to pray to created beings?
---> Zero.
Maybe in the gospel according to Mounce, or TDNT or whoever.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by tabibito View PostI am now wondering which part of the Bible declares prayer to be worship. Doesn't seem to be any such reference in any Bible that I have access to.
Maybe in the gospel according to Mounce, or TDNT or whoever.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by tabibito View PostI am now wondering which part of the Bible declares prayer to be worship. Doesn't seem to be any such reference in any Bible that I have access to.
Maybe in the gospel according to Mounce, or TDNT or whoever.
Next time get a Bible with all 66 books in it.
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostIt's okay. He can't cite where God approves of general nudity either. Maybe he thinks he's a prophet.
There is no command against it.
Furthermore, Leviticus 14-17 and 22 and Numbers 19 offer more than twenty commands from God to bathe. This is when Israel was still living in tents. More than a million people travel for years in a barren desert living in tents - no private bathrooms or bathing facilities except rivers, lakes and small pools of water.
Isaiah did it, King Saul did it, Bathsheeba did it where at least one other person (a male) saw her but she was never condemned for doing it.
Zero passages presented by you (or anyone else) that forbids it.
Great job in believing in something with no proof.
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Originally posted by foudroyant View PostThere is no command against it.
Furthermore, Leviticus 14-17 and 22 and Numbers 19 offer more than twenty commands from God to bathe. This is when Israel was still living in tents. More than a million people travel for years in a barren desert living in tents - no private bathrooms or bathing facilities except rivers, lakes and small pools of water.
Isaiah did it, King Saul did it,
Further, Isaiah's nakedness is clearly connected with shame:
Also, Saul's nakedness was clearly unexpected to those who saw him.
Bathsheeba did it where at least one other person (a male) saw her but she was never condemned for doing it.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by foudroyant View PostStill not one command against it.
You cited a total of zero passages that forbid public nudity.
Prove that Saul's nakedness was unexpected.
Bathsheeba...still a grand total of zero passages.
Way to go Mr. Zero.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by foudroyant View PostThen it falls under Christian liberty.
You didn't demonstrate that King Saul's nudity was unexpected...you're too busy sticking that thumb up somewhere it doesn't belong.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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