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  • #16
    Originally posted by Spartacus View Post
    Among the major faulty assumptions in your logic, DE, are the Westphalian state and the existence of the ever-threatening enemy. With respect to the latter, where does the threat to the nation come from? This isn't a video game-- enemies don't spawn just for you to kill or just to threaten you. Why is there someone who will destroy your farm? Where did they come from? What are their motivations?
    Opportunity cost. Sometimes it's more effective to just take someone's stuff than to grow or build your own. Everything else being equal, the side willing to kill and take someone else's stuff will win out over the side unwilling to do that. The same applies to groups that can cooperate in large numbers vs groups that can't.
    "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12

    There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

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    • #17
      Excellent rejoinders, let me just add a few more to the mix:

      1. The beliefs of the sincere anti-nationalists are amply described here:



      2. The only trouble with them is, of course, that nations and peoples are things that exist, and exact their revenge upon those who deny they exist. As a matter of fact, Nations and Peoples are fairly interchangeable in the discussion of the American State against the American people. But the same applies overseas:

      Hexthorpe has a population of 3,300 and 500 Roma residents, most of whom are said to have arrived since January when entry rules to the UK were relaxed.

      Villagers claim Roma groups are fly-tipping and leaving litter in the streets. They say they make so much noise at night that elderly residents have to sleep with ear plugs, while others are scared to go outside.

      The meeting also heard allegations of assault.

      Paul Adams, 44, who works in advertising, said: ‘They don’t care about the village or our community. All they are here for is the benefits.

      ‘They are here to play the system. They are loud, aggressive and intimidating. They gather in groups in the park and on the streets. They’ve attacked people, threatened people. People are intimidated just leaving the house.

      ‘They throw rubbish everywhere, literally out of their windows into their garden, in the knowledge someone from the council will have to clear it up. It is degrading for the street cleaners to have to be treated that way. What these people need is educating in how to be part of the community.’

      He said the problems had hit local house prices too warning: ‘It will come to a point where blood will be spilt if things don’t improve.’

      Grandmother Elizabeth Boardman, a widow and former lollipop lady, said she had lived in the village for 30 years and was shocked by the sudden change.

      She said: ‘Now I wouldn’t walk down the road on my own because there are groups of them everywhere. I’m scared to pass them, they make me feel intimidated and shaken.

      'I try to ignore them but you get scared they are going to hit out at you.

      ‘If they carry on like this people will take the law into their own hands and there will be riots in the streets and I will be blaming the police for not doing anything sooner.’

      Her daughter, mother-of-four, Michele Boardman, 44, who is a full time carer to a disabled son said: ‘A Roma man threatened to kill my daughters and was holding a knife as they walked home one night.

      'The police haven’t taken statements yet and the incident happened in April. They don’t care.

      We just want to be able to provide a happy and safe environment to pass onto our children and the future generations. The kids can’t understand why they can’t go and play in the park any more. It’s just not safe for them.

      ‘The police need to be firmer with them and act now or there will be riots here like there were eight years ago when Iraqi, Kosovans and English clashed. These people need to learn to respect the area they live in and the people they are living with.’

      One angry resident told the police officers at the meeting: ‘We feel as though you are scared of them and it’s to hell with the British. We’ve lost faith in you. This is our village, it’s time you got off your backsides and start doing something.’

      Another resident said she had been warned to take down England flags she had put up outside her house for the World Cup bid, for fear of reprisals from the Roma community.
      It is the very local communities that you speak of that produce the most ardent nationalists, and those that are ashamed of their nation's flag and history will be ashamed of the people who fly it. Eric Cantor was ashamed of the most ardent Republicans in his party, and he unlike a great many in his party who managed to conceal it better(Lindsey Graham ) paid the price for it.

      Tumors on the body politic will grow until recognized as foreign and excised. I'm here to assist in the early recognition and destruction.

      3. "Nationalism, like family, divides the world into us and them."

      I'd put it a little differently: Families, like nations, are for protecting, guiding, and raising the weak until they're ready to take their place in the wider community. No one who grew up in an intact nuclear family can believe in idiocies like human equality at home. So it's no surprise that liberals thus encourage single motherhood and bastardy in order to remove as many counterfactuals as possible from the lived experience of their followers. The nation eventually pays the price, but the destroyers get to have fun in some nice-looking government buildings before the judgment.

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      • #18
        Eric Cantor gets slammed in an election. Oh, this is funny. And they said Rand Paul wouldn't last.

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