Thread: Baruch atah adonai!
April 13th 2004, 07:52 PM #1
Baruch atah adonai!
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Well, there was this Messianic Jew Seder nearby on Friday. And of course I went. And there were shofars, and matzoh, and the Haggadah! But anyway.
I've been to Jewish seders before, and compared to the others, this one was amazing. It was 3 and a half hours, but it only felt like an hour. We followed the Haggadah (with slight alterations to give praise to ... Meschiach Yeshua!) The Rabbi guy explained how Jesus is shown in the Passover tradition. Here's one example:
Momma has to get rid of all the leavening from the house. She leaves some in some hidden spot in the house while the father builds a bonfire by himself or with the community (if he's Orthodox). Then the lights are shut off. The kids get candles and search for the leavening with their dad, who has a feather and a wooden spoon. When they find it, the dad sweeps the leavening into the spoon, brings it to the bonfire, and everyone cheers like freaks.
Okay. So leavening represents sin. It's hidden somewhere in the house, like sin can be hidden in people. The kids look for the sin with the light, and Jesus called Himself the light of the world. When the sin is exposed by Jesus, the Holy Spirit convicts to remove sin, which is the feather (think the dove). Sin is put on the cross (represented by the wooden spoon) and is thrown into fire (because our God is a consuming fire).
There were some other things, but this is the one I remember most. There are other claims the Rabbi made that I'd like to check out before I report them. Anyway, my Jewishness was thoroughly happy. I went to talk with the guys afterward. They were both raised in Jewish families. The wife was converted when she went to a Messianic Seder years back. I don't remember how the husband was. He told me after he became a Christian, his family rejected him and wouldn't talk to him. At his own mother's funeral (who believed in Christ before she died), he was given a seperate room to stay in, and when he went to see her body, no one wanted to speak with him. God led a pastor at some church to become his "spiritual guide," which the pastor did, and it grew into a father-son relationship.
Anyway, he's sending me a newsletter and material on testimonies of Jews coming to Jesus (from a Holocaust victim, scholar, and 10 others). Hopefully, through this, I can reach my dad, who is an atheist who sticks to Jewish customs (Reform Jewish, anyway).
To sum it up, the Passover Seder was incredible. I felt a real bond between all the Christians there. The Rabbi got us all involved. We all laughed together, sang together, ate together, and I really felt a unity in the Body that I've never experienced before (and there were many people from other churches there).
Any thoughts on Messianic seders? Or even the Messianic Jews?O noble Virgin, truly you are greater than any other greatness. For who is your equal in greatness, O dwelling place of God the Word? To whom among all creatures shall I compare you, O Virgin? You are greater than them all O Covenant, clothed with purity instead of gold! You are the Ark in which is found the golden vessel containing the true manna, that is, the flesh in which divinity resides. - St Athanasius of Alexandria
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April 13th 2004, 10:50 PM #2Originally posted by JawaMan
Any thoughts on Messianic seders? Or even the Messianic Jews?