Thread: Is This A Good Thing?
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April 22nd 2004, 07:42 PM #1
Is This A Good Thing?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/upi-b...3640-1854r.htm
Mich. city council approves Muslim prayers
Hamtramck, MI, Apr. 21 (UPI) -- Mosques in the city of Hamtramck, Mich., will be allowed to broadcast their Muslim calls to prayer over loudspeakers.
The issue, which has divided many of the city's 23,000 Muslim and Christian residents, was approved by city council, the Detroit Free Press reported Wednesday.
The controversy centered on noise pollution and religious freedom and tolerance.
Those opposed to the measure said they didn't want Islamic beliefs imposed upon them. The prayer, which is in Arabic, occurs five times a day between 6 a.m. and 10 p.m.
Supporters said the issue is an Islamic tradition. They cited the city's church bells, which ring at least every hour, as comparable.
Opponents vow they will defeat the ordinance, possibly taking the issue into federal court.
Masud Khan of the Al-Islah Islamic Center said it took courage to approve the plan.
"Hamtramck is going to be a pioneer city for the whole United States," he said.Last edited by seer; April 22nd 2004 at 07:58 PM.
"And all our yesterdays have lighted fools, the way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard no more: it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” Shakespeare
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April 22nd 2004, 08:18 PM #2I have no problem with the prayers, so long as the decibel level is chosen wisely.
Originally posted by seer
dlw
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April 22nd 2004, 08:21 PM #3
Will other religions have their loudspeaker prayer time as well?
Have you the brain worms?!
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April 22nd 2004, 08:21 PM #4I wonder if they would have a problem with christian prayers over loudspeakers? I bet they would...
Originally posted by Love-Warrior
"And all our yesterdays have lighted fools, the way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard no more: it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” Shakespeare
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April 22nd 2004, 08:31 PM #5Do other religions have traditions that mandate such?
Originally posted by yxboom
We have public displays and calls for religiosity with our holiday-symbols.
If people hear us singing hymns as they pass by our churches, should they be able to ask for this to be made illegal only if we sing so quietly that noone could possibly hear us outside the church?
dlw
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April 22nd 2004, 08:52 PM #61. We can make it a tradition.
Originally posted by Love-Warrior
2. So singing in the church is the same as broadcasting over loudspeakers through the whole town?"And all our yesterdays have lighted fools, the way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard no more: it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” Shakespeare
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April 22nd 2004, 08:55 PM #7They have more right to do it if it does reflect a long-standing tradition.
Originally posted by seer
And I didn't say they should be able to broadcast throughout the whole town. Remember the decibel level reservation.
There is nothing wrong with demanding some modification of traditions to take into account the fact that not all of the town is muslim. But that doesn't mean they can't do it in some form.
dlw
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April 22nd 2004, 10:39 PM #8
Isn't only a call to prayer that's being broadcast not the actual prayer? If that's the case than I could see it's likening to church bells. If it's the actual prayer than i believe that's a no-no
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