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      What if the "Ark" is found?

      This was over the news yesterday on several outlets. Here's the only story online I could find with the referenced satellite images:
      http://worldnetdaily.com/news/articl...TICLE_ID=38220

      Also, here's a link to the 1949 photos that remained classified for years. This article was written before the recent photos were taken, but if I'm reading it right, it's of the same anomaly:
      http://www.space.com/scienceastronom..._010823-1.html

      Ok, here's my question. I know it's HIGHLY speculative, but what if this turns out to be a huge boat 16,000 feet up on a mountain? I know. . . let's wait and see, but what fun is that?

      What kind of reaction from society would it garner? From different quarters?

      Just speculating.

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      Scientifically, a recent global flood is as thoroughly falsified as anything we know. Finding something that was indisputably a huge, ocean-deposited, in-situ vessel on top of Ararat would basically mean abandoning science as a means of knowing about the world. In other words, we’d have to rethink everything we though we knew about rationality from the Greeks on up to the present time.

      Since science and engineering have apparently taught us true and pragmatic things about the world, one would be left with a choice:

      1) Accept science as true and the ark as some sort of anomaly, unexplainable at the present, but perhaps explainable in the future with more data, or

      2) Accept the ark as typical (as opposed to an anomaly), and every finding and conclusion of science and rationality as unexplainable at the present, and perhaps never explainable.

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      I look at it this way... Wood... years... rot... I really can't see a boat lasting that long. Unless it froze right away...

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      Quote Originally posted by NSMinistries
      I look at it this way... Wood... years... rot... I really can't see a boat lasting that long. Unless it froze right away...

      ...mutters to self... ya right ...still muttering... shut up they might hear ya...
      And even if it is found then it will be so decayed as to essentially be beyond any serious anlaysis.
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      Quote Originally posted by Steve Forden
      And even if it is found then it will be so decayed as to essentially be beyond any serious anlaysis.
      I would agree. So much history has decayed. Hard to say whats what if its gone...
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      Okay, okay, so we find a decayed BOAT 15,000 ft. up a mountain. . . . Uhm, would analysis be necessary?
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      Quote Originally posted by tizzidale
      Okay, okay, so we find a decayed BOAT 15,000 ft. up a mountain. . . . Uhm, would analysis be necessary?
      well It would cause a stir wouldn't it...
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      Quote Originally posted by tizzidale
      Okay, okay, so we find a decayed BOAT 15,000 ft. up a mountain. . . . Uhm, would analysis be necessary?
      Well analysis is always nice.

      Further to this, is the boat big? Was it roubust? Does it look to have been purely ceremonial? Could it have survived carrying a large number of animals? When was it built? All important questions.
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      True, true. All true. There would be tons of questions to be answered. No doubt. Whew. . . the debate that would ensue. Perhaps it's better that it probably will not be a boat after all.

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      Quote Originally posted by tizzidale
      True, true. All true. There would be tons of questions to be answered. No doubt. Whew. . . the debate that would ensue. Perhaps it's better that it probably will not be a boat after all.

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      Quote Originally posted by NeilUnreal
      Scientifically, a recent global flood is as thoroughly falsified as anything we know. Finding something that was indisputably a huge, ocean-deposited, in-situ vessel on top of Ararat would basically mean abandoning science as a means of knowing about the world. In other words, we’d have to rethink everything we though we knew about rationality from the Greeks on up to the present time.
      We would?

      Why?

      Would it not be just another observation in need of investigation? Just because we find a boat up there (assuming we do of course) doesn't mean it was the Ark which got to be in that position exactly and literally as described in Genesis.
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      Quote Originally posted by tizzidale
      True, true. All true. There would be tons of questions to be answered. No doubt. Whew. . . the debate that would ensue. Perhaps it's better that it probably will not be a boat after all.

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      Yes, it certainly would be an interesting (and probably rather angry) debate that followed.

      I guess we'll just have to see.
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      Another question is, what if the 'anomaly' is a couple of rock outcrops?

      Will we be told about that?

      Or will they hide the knowledge and/or make up some crazy story about an evolutionist whacko who infiltrated their expedition and kept them from reaching the ark?

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      Quote Originally posted by rach12
      Another question is, what if the 'anomaly' is a couple of rock outcrops?

      Will we be told about that?

      Or will they hide the knowledge and/or make up some crazy story about an evolutionist whacko who infiltrated their expedition and kept them from reaching the ark?
      why is it we put a man on the moon. Dive the deepest oceans, vist the top and bottom of the world but can't seem to make it up some mountains...
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      why is it we put a man on the moon. Dive the deepest oceans, vist the top and bottom of the world but can't seem to make it up some mountains...
      The Yetis keep throwing rocks at us?
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