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  • #16
    Originally posted by Psychic Missile View Post
    Epoetker, I am not a communist. Homosexuals are not depraved or part of the elite. They are they bullied. Homosexuals have just as much a connection to the past as anyone else.
    Well said Psychic Missile and don’t worry about the paranoid, hatred being spewed throughout this thread in the name of God. It’s just the death throes of the moral dinosaurs as they marginalize themselves ever further into irrelevance. Denying certain citizens their civil rights is the Evangelicals “connection to the past”. It's been a long tradition from blacks to women and now gays.
    “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Tassman View Post
      Well said Psychic Missile and don’t worry about the paranoid, hatred being spewed throughout this thread in the name of God. It’s just the death throes of the moral dinosaurs as they marginalize themselves ever further into irrelevance. Denying certain citizens their civil rights is the Evangelicals “connection to the past”. It's been a long tradition from blacks to women and now gays.
      Be careful Tass, you may get what you wish for.
      Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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      • #18
        Originally posted by seer View Post
        Be careful Tass, you may get what you wish for.
        Yeah, we wouldn't want equal treatment for all to become a defining feature of our social structure now would we?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by JimL View Post
          Yeah, we wouldn't want equal treatment for all to become a defining feature of our social structure now would we?
          The question is, where do human rights come from? Are they a legal fiction, invented by men? If so they are only as certain as the whims of men. "Equality" will always be defined by those with the power. "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal." A perfect description of today's liberals.
          Last edited by seer; 06-28-2014, 10:06 AM.
          Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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          • #20
            Originally posted by JimL View Post
            Yeah, we wouldn't want equal treatment for all to become a defining feature of our social structure now would we?
            And how well has that whole thing worked out over the past century Jimmy?
            "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
            GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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            • #21
              Yeah, we wouldn't want equal treatment for all to become a defining feature of our social structure now would we?
              So very true - would I consider it appropriate for an honest man to be given the same treatment as a thief? not in a blue fit.
              1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
              .
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              Scripture before Tradition:
              but that won't prevent others from
              taking it upon themselves to deprive you
              of the right to call yourself Christian.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by tabibito View Post
                So very true - would I consider it appropriate for an honest man to be given the same treatment as a thief? not in a blue fit.
                There is no such category as that of an honest man or a thief man, there is only a man, and whether he be black, white, male, female, heterosexual or homosexual, we are all imperfect and derserving of the same rights as imperfect you.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by JimL View Post
                  Yeah, we wouldn't want equal treatment for all to become a defining feature of our social structure now would we?
                  No we wouldn't. Our society incarcerates convicted criminals against their will, and allows non-criminals to walk freely. It also allows for a company to not hire someone because they have tattoos or because they are obese.

                  A certain amount of unequal treatment is expected in a stable society.
                  That's what
                  - She

                  Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                  - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                  I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                  - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by JimL View Post
                    There is no such category as that of an honest man or a thief man, there is only a man, and whether he be black, white, male, female, heterosexual or homosexual, we are all imperfect and derserving of the same rights as imperfect you.
                    Yes, like the conservative groups that were targeted by the liberal fascists running the IRS. We all agree that that was wrong - correct?
                    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by seer View Post
                      liberal fascists


                      Progressive? Maybe. Liberal? Only in the talk radio sense.
                      Don't call it a comeback. It's a riposte.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                        No we wouldn't. Our society incarcerates convicted criminals against their will, and allows non-criminals to walk freely.
                        In so far as it is deemed just, each is treated equally according to the law. Not sure if you are agreeing with this or upset about it?
                        It also allows for a company to not hire someone because they have tattoos or because they are obese.
                        Not to mention if they are homosexual, which i believe in 28 states it is legal for employers to not hire for this reason. I think we both agree this to be unequal treatment and wrong.
                        A certain amount of unequal treatment is expected in a stable society.
                        Well it should not be accepted or tolerated in either of the above cases. Not sure if you are arguing that it should be accepted or if you are on the free and equal treatment for all side?
                        Last edited by JimL; 06-28-2014, 02:24 PM.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by seer View Post
                          Yes, like the conservative groups that were targeted by the liberal fascists running the IRS. We all agree that that was wrong - correct?
                          I don't know what your argument is seer, that because injustice happens we should accept it or that it is wrong so we should fix it? BTW seer, you should be smart enough to see that all of these charges, IRS, Bengahssi, executive recess appointments, Obama the tyrant, Obama the foriegn born muslim etc. etc. are trumped up charges in order to demonize the President and rile up the extreme right wing base of the party. It works because its what they want to hear, but it is going to backfire.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by JimL View Post
                            I don't know what your argument is seer, that because injustice happens we should accept it or that it is wrong so we should fix it? BTW seer, you should be smart enough to see that all of these charges, IRS, Bengahssi, executive recess appointments, Obama the tyrant, Obama the foriegn born muslim etc. etc. are trumped up charges in order to demonize the President and rile up the extreme right wing base of the party. It works because its what they want to hear, but it is going to backfire.
                            That is why we never can or will have equality Jim, you just proved that. You are so brainwashed you will believe anything. You are a sheep being led by the nose. The Supreme Court just handed down a ruling, 9-0, that Obama's recess appointments were against the law - unconstitutional. And if you don't think what the IRS did was not a scandal and tyrannical, start off with the case of the conservative group "True the Vote." If you don't see the clear tyranny then your mind is gone. And the perfect dupe for the liberal fascists. And please spare us all this equality nonsense.
                            Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by seer
                              liberal fascists
                              Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow.--Isaiah 1:17

                              I don't think that all forms o[f] slavery are inherently immoral.--seer

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by seer View Post
                                "Equality" will always be defined by those with the power. "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal." A perfect description of today's liberals.
                                Too accurate.
                                Last edited by Jedidiah; 06-28-2014, 03:06 PM.
                                Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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