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  • #31
    Originally posted by Spartacus View Post


    Progressive? Maybe. Liberal? Only in the talk radio sense.
    Yeah conservatives need to stop insulting Fascists' memory by comparing them with the mass murdering degenerate godless psychopaths that make up the bulk of the modern left.
    "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12

    There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by square_peg View Post
      Sure I do. The Nazis were socialists - The National Socialist Party. The leftists are socialist, and socialism by nature is anti-freedom. It must control or regulate just about everything. Health care, energy, food production. Limit personal control of ones own property and wealth by taxation, etc....
      Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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      • #33
        Originally posted by seer View Post
        Sure I do. The Nazis were socialists - The National Socialist Party. The leftists are socialist, and socialism by nature is anti-freedom. It must control or regulate just about everything. Health care, energy, food production. Limit personal control of ones own property and wealth by taxation, etc....
        Not "fascist"-- "liberal".
        Don't call it a comeback. It's a riposte.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by seer View Post
          That is why we never can or will have equality Jim, you just proved that. You are so brainwashed you will believe anything. You are a sheep being led by the nose. The Supreme Court just handed down a ruling, 9-0, that Obama's recess appointments were against the law - unconstitutional.
          The Congress was blocking everything the President was doing including filling posts that had been unfilled for much time due to the republican obstructionism, obstructionism mind you purely for political reasons. Republicans, if you recall were doing this by means of abusing the filibuster rule, and pretending to be in session when in fact they were not. The Supreme Court ruled that 3 days recess was not enough time, that it must be at least 10 days recess before the President can act. Well, there was no such law, and the Supreme Court just took it upon themselves to create such a law. BTW, republicans can no longer play these political games at the expense of the best interests of the country since because of them the Democrats had no option but to end the filibuster procedure in order to get anything at all done. The President and the Democrats can play the Republican game to, if thats the way they want to play it, they're just upset because the President outsmarted them as usual.

          And if you don't think what the IRS did was not a scandal and tyrannical, start off with the case of the conservative group "True the Vote." If you don't see the clear tyranny then your mind is gone. And the perfect dupe for the liberal fascists.
          No, I'm afraid that you are the dupe seer, though i have no hope of you ever being the seer you think you are. These groups are obviously political in nature, and both republican and democratic groups were targeted by the IRS as suspiscious and for very good reason. You only seer what you want to seer. Besides that, Tyranny, tyranny by whom? The problem that your side has is that you are always filled with BS accussations with out ever coming up with a shred of evidence to back them up. And BTW, i'm pretty sure you have no idea what fascist even means.


          And please spare us all this equality nonsense.
          Equality nonsense, very interesting!
          Last edited by JimL; 06-28-2014, 05:38 PM.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by JimL View Post
            and both republican and democratic groups were targeted by the IRS as suspiscious
            This is the line typically given by people who have no clue what the actual issue is. You don't even know what you don't know. Buzz off.
            "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12

            There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Darth Executor View Post
              This is the line typically given by people who have no clue what the actual issue is. You don't even know what you don't know. Buzz off.
              Whatever you want to tell yourself Darthy old boy. You really should get out and about more though, you're getting more jaded by the day.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by seer View Post
                Sure I do. The Nazis were socialists - The National Socialist Party. The leftists are socialist, and socialism by nature is anti-freedom. It must control or regulate just about everything. Health care, energy, food production. Limit personal control of ones own property and wealth by taxation, etc....
                Do you think that North Korea is a democratic republic?

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by JimL View Post
                  The Congress was blocking everything the President was doing including filling posts that had been unfilled for much time due to the republican obstructionism, obstructionism mind you purely for political reasons. Republicans, if you recall were doing this by means of abusing the filibuster rule, and pretending to be in session when in fact they were not. The Supreme Court ruled that 3 days recess was not enough time, that it must be at least 10 days recess before the President can act. Well, there was no such law, and the Supreme Court just took it upon themselves to create such a law. BTW, republicans can no longer play these political games at the expense of the best interests of the country since because of them the Democrats had no option but to end the filibuster procedure in order to get anything at all done. The President and the Democrats can play the Republican game to, if thats the way they want to play it, they're just upset because the President outsmarted them as usual.
                  Jim, what country are you living in? Republican obstructionism is a good thing, remember the people elected a Republican majority in the House twice. But tyrants don't like opposition. And you may come to rue the day that the filibuster rule was changed. Perhaps sooner than you think.


                  Equality nonsense, very interesting!
                  Really Jim, in your godless universe how are men equal. Based on what?
                  Last edited by seer; 06-28-2014, 06:34 PM.
                  Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Psychic Missile View Post
                    Do you think that North Korea is a democratic republic?
                    What are talking about?
                    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by JimL View Post
                      Whatever you want to tell yourself Darthy old boy. You really should get out and about more though, you're getting more jaded by the day.
                      It has nothing to do with me being jaded and everything to do with you being an idiot mouthing off when you don't even know what the actual issue is.
                      Last edited by Darth Executor; 06-28-2014, 11:50 PM.
                      "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12

                      There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by JimL View Post
                        In so far as it is deemed just, each is treated equally according to the law. Not sure if you are agreeing with this or upset about it?
                        Exactly. There are qualifiers to "equal treatment"

                        Not to mention if they are homosexual, which i believe in 28 states it is legal for employers to not hire for this reason. I think we both agree this to be unequal treatment and wrong.
                        Not hiring someone for any other reason than their qualifications is wrong, but very few are rallying around the right for obese people to not be discriminated against.

                        Well it should not be accepted or tolerated in either of the above cases. Not sure if you are arguing that it should be accepted or if you are on the free and equal treatment for all side?
                        I think that society dictates what they consider "acceptable unequal treatment". There hasn't been a society in existence that treats everyone equally, nor can there be.
                        That's what
                        - She

                        Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                        - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                        I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                        - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by seer View Post
                          What are talking about?
                          A party's name does not necessarily describe that party. That's all.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by JimL View Post
                            There is no such category as that of an honest man or a thief man, there is only a man, and whether he be black, white, male, female, heterosexual or homosexual, we are all imperfect and derserving of the same rights as imperfect you.
                            What? You think a terrorist has the same rights as you do, on grounds that you are morally no better than the terrorist? Sorry sunshine, there is a need to assess the degree of threat posed by each.
                            Do you think the Bible declares a false brother to have the same rights as a true brother? Does the Bible declare that the false teacher has the same rights as the teacher who correctly handles the truth?
                            1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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                            Scripture before Tradition:
                            but that won't prevent others from
                            taking it upon themselves to deprive you
                            of the right to call yourself Christian.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by tabibito View Post
                              What? You think a terrorist has the same rights as you do, on grounds that you are morally no better than the terrorist?
                              Well if he does, it would be the first time in his life when he'd be 100% correct.
                              "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12

                              There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                                Exactly. There are qualifiers to "equal treatment"



                                Not hiring someone for any other reason than their qualifications is wrong, but very few are rallying around the right for obese people to not be discriminated against.



                                I think that society dictates what they consider "acceptable unequal treatment". There hasn't been a society in existence that treats everyone equally, nor can there be.
                                Quite true. Some would consider it a wrong to force people into association with others that they do not like. If I find a person objectionable, why am I forced to associate with him. What right does the government have to dictate what groups I may join, for example. The ludicrous situation where even social clubs (men's clubs, for example) are forced to allow membership to people (women, for example) they don't want in the club. (Though perish the thought that a women's club should be forced to open its doors to men.)
                                Legal assertion of a given minority groups rights will ALMOST guarantee that some other group will be marginalised, and in such circumstances, the law ceases to be a defender and becomes an oppressor.
                                1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
                                .
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                                Scripture before Tradition:
                                but that won't prevent others from
                                taking it upon themselves to deprive you
                                of the right to call yourself Christian.

                                ⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛

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