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    100 years ago today, the world changed.

    Today is the 100th anniversary of the assassination of the Archduke Franz Ferdinand that led to the beginning of World War I.

    If any of you are ever in Kansas City, I heavily recommend visiting the World War I museum there; it's well worth a trip.
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    I'd like to see that, actually. That, and the memorial for the Arizona.


    Yes, I know Pearl Harbor was WWII and not WWI.

    Let's just hope that the sacrifices made in both wars assure there is never a WWIII...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teallaura View Post
    I'd like to see that, actually. That, and the memorial for the Arizona.


    Yes, I know Pearl Harbor was WWII and not WWI.

    Let's just hope that the sacrifices made in both wars assure there is never a WWIII...
    Too late. We're in it, it's just not "conventional".

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    The war to end all wars...and exactly 100 years later the situation looks dire.
    Russia in Ukraine, Middle East mess and of the events in Asia regarding the Spratly Islands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Too late. We're in it, it's just not "conventional".
    Wait, what?

    And yes, I know that's a 2.7 year old thread bump, but I'm curious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsGambit View Post
    Today is the 100th anniversary of the assassination of the Archduke Franz Ferdinand that led to the beginning of World War I.

    If any of you are ever in Kansas City, I heavily recommend visiting the World War I museum there; it's well worth a trip.
    I say if anyone looks up the history of the 1st WW then it becomes clear that we the USA were on the wrong side.

    We now know from historical records that the Serbian military was behind the assassination of the Austrian Arch Duke, and then Czarist Russia jumped to the side of Serbia, and history tells us that France had a treaty with Russia based on their mutual aggression against Germany.

    Germany did not do anything to start the war except Germany supported Austria in its rightful claim against Serbia for the murder of the Arch Duke.

    Even the invasion of Belgium in WWI is not reported accurate because Germany made a formal request to Belgium to peacefully send the German army into the belligerent France but the British backed Belgium into resisting Germany which thereby made Belgium into another belligerent instead of being a neutral Country.

    We the USA joined sides with the war mongers of Britain, France and Russia, against Germany who was just trying to defend the weaker Austria from the belligerence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Cusick View Post
    I say if anyone looks up the history of the 1st WW then it becomes clear that we the USA were on the wrong side.

    We now know from historical records that the Serbian military was behind the assassination of the Austrian Arch Duke, and then Czarist Russia jumped to the side of Serbia, and history tells us that France had a treaty with Russia based on their mutual aggression against Germany.

    Germany did not do anything to start the war except Germany supported Austria in its rightful claim against Serbia for the murder of the Arch Duke.

    Even the invasion of Belgium in WWI is not reported accurate because Germany made a formal request to Belgium to peacefully send the German army into the belligerent France but the British backed Belgium into resisting Germany which thereby made Belgium into another belligerent instead of being a neutral Country.

    We the USA joined sides with the war mongers of Britain, France and Russia, against Germany who was just trying to defend the weaker Austria from the belligerence.
    My historian daughter who specializes in WWI and WWII Europe says you are full of it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by James Cusick View Post
    I say if anyone looks up the history of the 1st WW then it becomes clear that we the USA were on the wrong side.

    We now know from historical records that the Serbian military was behind the assassination of the Austrian Arch Duke, and then Czarist Russia jumped to the side of Serbia, and history tells us that France had a treaty with Russia based on their mutual aggression against Germany.

    Germany did not do anything to start the war except Germany supported Austria in its rightful claim against Serbia for the murder of the Arch Duke.

    Even the invasion of Belgium in WWI is not reported accurate because Germany made a formal request to Belgium to peacefully send the German army into the belligerent France but the British backed Belgium into resisting Germany which thereby made Belgium into another belligerent instead of being a neutral Country.

    We the USA joined sides with the war mongers of Britain, France and Russia, against Germany who was just trying to defend the weaker Austria from the belligerence.
    If you don't let us "peacefully" march our army through your country then you're the aggressor and we have no other option but to conquer you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    If you don't let us "peacefully" march our army through your country then you're the aggressor and we have no other option but to conquer you.
    That is not really what I said, and the history is more complicated then simplistic criteria.

    It was France and Russia who had ordered their militaries to mobilize against Germany and in self defense Germany sought to cross over Belgium and the British convinced Belgium to refuse the passage and so Germany had a greater need to its own self defense and Belgium thereby aligned it self with the belligerent nations.

    All of this happened long before the USA entered that first WW, so we had plenty of time to see who were the real aggressors against Austria, and in support of the Serbians who started the war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Cusick View Post
    That is not really what I said, and the history is more complicated then simplistic criteria.

    It was France and Russia who had ordered their militaries to mobilize against Germany and in self defense Germany sought to cross over Belgium and the British convinced Belgium to refuse the passage and so Germany had a greater need to its own self defense and Belgium thereby aligned it self with the belligerent nations.

    All of this happened long before the USA entered that first WW, so we had plenty of time to see who were the real aggressors against Austria, and in support of the Serbians who started the war.
    So, if your neighbors were having a fight and one of them wanted to use your home to further their efforts if you refuse then they have every right to take it from you. Is that about it?

    Both Belgium and Luxembourg were neutral and Germany thought that invading France through neutral countries would catch France off guard. In fact Germany came up with the idea roughly a decade earlier and even claimed that they were trying to help Belgium stave off an attack of that country by the French. And it was the invasion of Belgium that brought England (who had a treaty with them) into the war.

    While WWI isn't as cut and dry as WWII nevertheless you are engaging in some major historical revisionism.

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