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March 31st 2003, 01:22 PM #1
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Male - agnosticShould Homosexuals be fired?
Should an employer be permitted to fire/or refuse hiring someone solely due to homosexuality?
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March 31st 2003, 01:28 PM #2
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Undisclosed - AgnosticFirst, why does a homosexual value letting other people know about his/her perversions?
But... to answer the question:
Private empoyer of a small business? Yes.
Private company with stated values expressly contrary to Homsexual lifestyle? Yes.
Public Job? No. Public law forbids sexual discrimination of any kind. Homosexuals and other people with all kinds of fetishes and other psychological sexual problems should be able to work as long as they don't disrupt the job with their fixations.
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March 31st 2003, 01:48 PM #3
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Male - ChristianI am with calvinist.
Meh.
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March 31st 2003, 02:28 PM #4
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Male - ChristianYeah, if you own a private business it is my opinion that you should be able to hire and fire WHOEVER you want for absolutely WHATEVER reason. Even if you don't have a reason, it's your decision who works for you.
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March 31st 2003, 02:35 PM #5
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Male - Christian (other)I agree with Calvinist. Unlike efta though, I think a reason should always be given for accountability's sake.
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March 31st 2003, 02:48 PM #6
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Femalewe're assumming
Are we assuming that said "homosexual" is someone who openly engages in these kinds of activities unrepentantly? Because there are people with a homosexual orientation who do not act upon their desires, yet by the world's standards would be labeled "homosexual." Because in the latter instance, I would have a serious problem with someone being fired for sinful proclivities.
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March 31st 2003, 02:51 PM #7
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I agree with you calvinist. I think that there are situations where employers should be able to refuse employment to someone for reasons normaly illegal. For example, a friend of mine works at a local christian bookstore. The store is not allowed to ask potential employees if they are christian, what church they attend... ANYTHING relating to their religious affiliation. And yet, a huge part of the job is answering questions about theology. It just doesn't make sense.
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March 31st 2003, 03:24 PM #8
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Male - agnosticShould an employer be able to discriminate on basis of race? Should he be able to refuse to hire a Christian? What if he isn't a homosexual himself but refuses to identify homosexuals as "perverts"?Today @ 01:28 PM post located here
efta777:
Yeah, if you own a private business it is my opinion that you should be able to hire and fire WHOEVER you want for absolutely WHATEVER reason. Even if you don't have a reason, it's your decision who works for you.
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March 31st 2003, 03:36 PM #9
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Male - ChristianI'd say yes. They'd be liable to be boycotted, but hey, we are a free democracy, right? If the public doesn't want to buy from you, its not anyones fault but your own.
Ultimately, the employer should have the right to pay for labor as he pleases, not as the state pleases. It is his money.Meh.
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March 31st 2003, 03:50 PM #10
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Male - ChristianOf course.
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March 31st 2003, 04:31 PM #11
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Male - ChristianI think it is silly that a Church can be litigated for firing someone who does not support their sectarian purposes. For isntance just as the Stonewall Union should be allowed to fire someone who believes that homosexual acts are a sin so an organization that believes those acts are sinful should be allowed to fire someone who either advocates or participate in those acts.
And I would say that it is the commission of the act that is sinful not the temptation per se.
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March 31st 2003, 06:52 PM #12
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Male - ChristianDiscrimination is wrong. Period. Equal rights for all, not just the popular and not just for those who conform to a certain chosen opinion.
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March 31st 2003, 06:59 PM #13
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Male - agnosticWell, no this is a pluralistic republic with a constitution intended to protect the rights of the minority from the tyranny of the majority.Today @ 02:36 PM post located here
Ryokan:
I'd say yes. They'd be liable to be boycotted, but hey, we are a free democracy, right? If the public doesn't want to buy from you, its not anyones fault but your own.
Ultimately, the employer should have the right to pay for labor as he pleases, not as the state pleases. It is his money.
Do you believe a shop proprietor should be allowed to prevent Blacks?Last edited by Lazy Agnostic; March 31st 2003 at 07:36 PM.
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March 31st 2003, 07:34 PM #14
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If we fired all the homosexuals, how would we witness to them?
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March 31st 2003, 07:38 PM #15
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Male - agnosticDo you think you should be allowed to continually "witness" to them on the job?Today @ 06:34 PM post located here
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If we fired all the homosexuals, how would we witness to them?
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