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Atheism: The Death Of Hope.

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  • #16
    Originally posted by Sir View Post
    Building nations is often a matter of politics and militarism. Can someone explain to me how religion or areligionist notions intersect with the purpose of drawing up boarders and defending them?
    Average Christian:

    Average atheist:


    Does that answer your question?
    "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12

    There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

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    • #17
      For a second I was wondering how Obama's face got into old cartography...

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      • #18
        Originally posted by seer View Post
        I'm jumping off a thread in Natural Science that linked this article:

        http://www.science20.com/writer_on_t..._a_joke-139982





        So spiritual beliefs seem to both offer hope and help humans cope. And that these beliefs are deeply ingrained. So one wonders why militate atheists seek to destroy this natural coping mechanism, why do they want so to kill hope?
        I don't. I am happy that you believe in Heaven and an afterlife and that you think that I am going to hell. At least you are not chopping my head off for not agreeing with you.

        NORM
        When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said 'Let us pray.' We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land. - Bishop Desmond Tutu

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        • #19
          Originally posted by NormATive View Post
          I don't. I am happy that you believe in Heaven and an afterlife and that you think that I am going to hell. At least you are not chopping my head off for not agreeing with you.

          NORM
          Actually Norm, I don't think you are at all happy with people of faith. I would in fact put you in the militant atheist/agnostic camp. One of the destroyers of hope...
          Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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          • #20
            Originally posted by seer View Post
            I'm jumping off a thread in Natural Science that linked this article:

            http://www.science20.com/writer_on_t..._a_joke-139982



            So spiritual beliefs seem to both offer hope and help humans cope. And that these beliefs are deeply ingrained. So one wonders why militate atheists seek to destroy this natural coping mechanism, why do they want so to kill hope?
            The history of many theist institutions seeking to destroy the diversity of belief and kill hope is indeed a problem.
            Last edited by shunyadragon; 07-23-2014, 10:13 PM.
            Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
            Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
            But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

            go with the flow the river knows . . .

            Frank

            I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
              The history of many theist institutions seeking to destroy the diversity of belief and kill hop is indeed a problem.
              Yes, I agree that killing HOP is a bad thing. I mean without hops what would our beer taste like?
              Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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              • #22
                I don't get the recent popularity of very hoppy beers. Too bitter for my taste.
                βλέπομεν γὰρ ἄρτι δι᾿ ἐσόπτρου ἐν αἰνίγματι, τότε δὲ πρόσωπον πρὸς πρόσωπον·
                ἄρτι γινώσκω ἐκ μέρους, τότε δὲ ἐπιγνώσομαι καθὼς καὶ ἐπεγνώσθην.

                אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by robrecht View Post
                  I don't get the recent popularity of very hoppy beers. Too bitter for my taste.
                  Well we don't like to hoppy - but we should not like to see the death of hops. Shuny's warning should be taken to heart!
                  Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by seer View Post
                    Actually Norm, I don't think you are at all happy with people of faith. I would in fact put you in the militant atheist/agnostic camp. One of the destroyers of hope...
                    Come on he did thank you for not chopping his head off. Just because he sees Christianity as comparable to Islam means nothing.
                    Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Jedidiah View Post
                      Come on he did thank you for not chopping his head off. Just because he sees Christianity as comparable to Islam means nothing.
                      Sorry, I missed the compliment !
                      Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Darth Executor View Post
                        Average Christian:

                        Average atheist:


                        Does that answer your question?
                        No.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Darth Executor View Post

                          Blow me down if that doesn't look like Oliver Hardy!
                          The greater number of laws . . . , the more thieves . . . there will be. ---- Lao-Tzu

                          [T]he truth I’m after and the truth never harmed anyone. What harms us is to persist in self-deceit and ignorance -— Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by seer View Post
                            I'm jumping off a thread in Natural Science that linked this article:

                            http://www.science20.com/writer_on_t..._a_joke-139982

                            So spiritual beliefs seem to both offer hope and help humans cope. And that these beliefs are deeply ingrained. So one wonders why militate atheists seek to destroy this natural coping mechanism, why do they want so to kill hope?
                            It is an interesting argument: We should all pretend God exists, because they we have false hope to help us cope with the bad times.

                            I am more used to arguing about whether or not god exists, rather than whether we should pretend he exists. I will have to think about this one.
                            My Blog: http://oncreationism.blogspot.co.uk/

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by The Pixie View Post
                              It is an interesting argument: We should all pretend God exists, because they we have false hope to help us cope with the bad times.

                              I am more used to arguing about whether or not god exists, rather than whether we should pretend he exists. I will have to think about this one.
                              Pascal's wager?
                              Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                              Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                              But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                              go with the flow the river knows . . .

                              Frank

                              I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by The Pixie View Post
                                It is an interesting argument: We should all pretend God exists, because they we have false hope to help us cope with the bad times.

                                I am more used to arguing about whether or not god exists, rather than whether we should pretend he exists. I will have to think about this one.
                                I don't think the authors were suggesting that we pretend, but that religious belief has real survival value. Of course this brings up some interesting questions, did the evolutionary process create us to believe false things to better cope, our do we instinctively know that there is "something/someone" out there? As a Christian I vote for the latter.
                                Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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