"Five Israeli talking points, debunked".... Interesting

[Spartacus]

Ground forces trying to take out tunnels don't need rockets being launched at them, either. If Israel wants those tunnels they need to slow or stop the rocket bombardment.

By which you mean mortars and RPGs, not the mid-range rockets that Iron Dome can shoot down, yes?

[Teallaura]

By which you mean mortars and RPGs, not the mid-range rockets that Iron Dome can shoot down, yes?

Why would terrorist necessarily limit their weapons options when a lovely military target presents itself? Is the Iron Dome geared to provide protection both to civilians and troops when troops are moving out? I wouldn't think it would be.

[Spartacus]

Why would terrorist necessarily limit their weapons options when a lovely military target presents itself? Is the Iron Dome geared to provide protection both to civilians and troops when troops are moving out? I wouldn't think it would be.

I meant to suggest that it is here that concerns (raised by BTC, etc) about mortars and RPGs make the most sense.

[Psychic Missile]

You said that it was okay to exploit and restrict access to a natural resource as long as your enemy is part of the group being harmed by your actions, did you not? This thread has moved quickly, so I'll remind you of the relevant exchange:

"So it's as clear to you as it is to me that Israel is exploiting the West Bank's water resources while severely restricting the Palestinians' use of those very resources?"

"Nope. As I said, it's TOTALLY beside the point. You're threatening to kill me, and you state your purpose in life is to see that I am destroyed. But you want me to help you get drinking water."

And this relates to the publicly stated aim of Hamas to kill all Jews how?

And hurting people who don't have that aim helps how?

[Darth Executor]

Why would terrorist necessarily limit their weapons options when a lovely military target presents itself? Is the Iron Dome geared to provide protection both to civilians and troops when troops are moving out? I wouldn't think it would be.

The rockets they shoot at Israel aren't accurate enough.

[tabibito]

FYI: You guys do realize the Iron Dome does NOT respond to all rocket attacks, right? It responds to those likely to harm infrastructure and people. A LOT of rockets do in fact get past it.

Citations? The rockets have a flat trajectory, and they're fired with no assigned target. In short, the defenders can't predict where a rocket will land. Unless they are clearly not going to hit a populated area, Iron Dome will be deployed. It also takes a minimum 3 minutes to target and destroy the rockets.

[Cow Poke]

You said that it was okay to exploit and restrict access to a natural resource as long as your enemy is part of the group being harmed by your actions, did you not?

Quote, please.

[Psychic Missile]

Quote, please.

In the reply you quoted.

[Cow Poke]

In the reply you quoted.

I think you mangled the quote -- it looks like you're actually saying what I said, but without the quote function. Ya lost me.

[tabibito]

Nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki seemed to do the trick for the US. Hit them hard enough, and they won't be able to retaliate.

They couldn't retaliate before Hiroshima. If Japan was believed to have any capacity to even defend itself, do you really think a sole bomber with nothing more than two camera planes as escort would have been despatched? If Japan had any capacity at all for self defence, fighter planes would have been in escort. No capacity for self defence, even less for offence.
It is reported that even Woodrow Wilson admitted that, had the allies lost the war, actions in Japan (including but not restricted to the A-bombs) would have seen Allied leaders defending themselves in Nuremburg.

[Teallaura]

The rockets they shoot at Israel aren't accurate enough.

Okay.

[Teallaura]

I meant to suggest that it is here that concerns (raised by BTC, etc) about mortars and RPGs make the most sense.

My point was merely that having terrorists dodging stuff probably reduces the stuff they get to toss at you.

[Spartacus]

My point was merely that having terrorists dodging stuff probably reduces the stuff they get to toss at you.

In which case these retaliatory bombardments might be seen as suppressing fire.

[Psychic Missile]

I think you mangled the quote -- it looks like you're actually saying what I said, but without the quote function. Ya lost me.

Last time I used the quote function there was confusion. I can't win.

So it's as clear to you as it is to me that Israel is exploiting the West Bank's water resources while severely restricting the Palestinians' use of those very resources?

Nope. As I said, it's TOTALLY beside the point. You're threatening to kill me, and you state your purpose in life is to see that I am destroyed. But you want me to help you get drinking water.

[rogue06]