The discovery of Mark Driscoll's 2000 Internet postings

[TimelessTheist]

That's the cussing...

Yeah, I always saw that verse in reference to relaying inhumanely disgusting actions, or threats, like: "I'm going to cut off your head, and eat it, then boil your body in your own blood!!!" or something like that. I don't think it applies to crass humor, or cussing, or the such.

[Obsidian]

In context, I think Ephesians 4:29 is probably referring to words spoken in unjustified anger, rather than cussing.

[TimelessTheist]

In context, I think Ephesians 4:29 is probably referring to words spoken in unjustified anger, rather than cussing.

Yeah, that's what I meant.

[Thoughtful Monk]

Been catching up on the news out of Mars Hill. I think we're watching the slow motion collapse of the ministry there.

Feel bad for the people who just went there seeking a better relationship with God.

[KingsGambit]

Been catching up on the news out of Mars Hill. I think we're watching the slow motion collapse of the ministry there.

Feel bad for the people who just went there seeking a better relationship with God.

I think the issue is that with any church where there's so much of a cult of personality/ attention on one person, attention is directed away from God, where it should be.

[Thoughtful Monk]

I think the issue is that with any church where there's so much of a cult of personality/ attention on one person, attention is directed away from God, where it should be.

I would like to say that the modern phase of the pastor-centric church model is coming to an end. Unfortunately men (and women) like to be the center of attention and its usually sadder and more tragic when its church leadership.

[KingsGambit]

I would like to say that the modern phase of the pastor-centric church model is coming to an end. Unfortunately men (and women) like to be the center of attention and its usually sadder and more tragic when its church leadership.

Amen, amen. I suspect the biblical model of leadership of elders was used by the apostles for just that reason.

[Manw� S�limo]

"I'm going to cut off your head, and eat it, then boil your body in your own blood!!!"

What do you have against Scottish cuisine?

[KingsGambit]

Here is an excellent article on Driscoll's abuse of church power: http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/w...t?oid=20257920

[Thoughtful Monk]

Here is an excellent article on Driscoll's abuse of church power: http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/w...t?oid=20257920

Lord have mercy on us for the evil that is done in Your Name.


(We need a repent in sackcloth and ashes smiley.)