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Reading novels with sexually explicit scenes
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I should rephrase my first reply - sexually explicit scenes that go into all the details can never serve a morally neutral purpose, IMO, but I don't have a problem, in principle, with establishing that characters had sex. People sometimes have sex, after all; but we don't need to know in what position
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I generally skip the sex scenes, but if most of the book is filled with unnecessary sex scenes, I get angry and just put the dang thing down. If your entertainment causes you to sin, just stop. However, there are a lot of good books that do have sex scenes in them. I think it goes down to the "If your eye causes you to sin, cut it out" principle. If you find yourself very enticed by these scenes and can't stop yourself from reading them, then it's no use. I think we shouldn't read them, because even though it's not a photo or video, the written word can have as much power as watching a sex scene on a movie.
One option if you're still young/have someone willing, they can kind of edit the book for you. When I was a teen, my older brother let me read his scifi, but he first read it, and tried to blank out the explicit scense. Of course, if you're reading them online or on a kindle, that's not as much of a possibility.sigpic
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I should rephrase my first reply - sexually explicit scenes that go into all the details can never serve a morally neutral purpose, IMO, but I don't have a problem, in principle, with establishing that characters had sex. People sometimes have sex, after all; but we don't need to know in what position
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I know I'm resurrecting an old thread here, but I'm open for suggestions. I read a lot of fiction, and am running out of good authors. I like suspense thrillers, good science fiction (no fantasy, demons, dragons) but I'm sick and tired of the sex and profanity. Violence, I can take, especially if it's against the terrorists.
I recently discovered Steven James, and am quickly going through his Patrick Bowers series. The violence is graphic, but there is absolutely no profanity or sex. Not even implied. And there is a trace of Bible in it, but not preachy. Are there more authors like him?
I just about finished off everything from David Baldacci, Patrick Lee, Jack McDevitt, Ben Coes, James S.A. Corey, Brad Taylor, Lee Child, Brad Thor. I miss Vince Flynn. Tom Clancy was good but the later authors using his name are wallowing in sex and profanity, so I gave them up. The Richaed Paul Evans/Michael Vey books are good, but too short and geared for kids. Plus the same archvillain has survived through all four books. Time for a change.
Nelson DeMille is off my list. I deleted the second book of his I read from my Nook after halfway through it. I did the same with another author I can't remember, because halfway through it was implying that the Gospels may be fiction. I jumped to the end of the book, and sure enough its message was that a missing epistle of Peter denied the resurrection of Jesus, but that the Christian religion served its purpose buy bringing civilization through the dark ages. I tossed that one into the trash.
Suggestions, anyone?When I Survey....
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Originally posted by Faber View PostI know I'm resurrecting an old thread here, but I'm open for suggestions. I read a lot of fiction, and am running out of good authors. I like suspense thrillers, good science fiction (no fantasy, demons, dragons) but I'm sick and tired of the sex and profanity. Violence, I can take, especially if it's against the terrorists.
I recently discovered Steven James, and am quickly going through his Patrick Bowers series. The violence is graphic, but there is absolutely no profanity or sex. Not even implied. And there is a trace of Bible in it, but not preachy. Are there more authors like him?
I just about finished off everything from David Baldacci, Patrick Lee, Jack McDevitt, Ben Coes, James S.A. Corey, Brad Taylor, Lee Child, Brad Thor. I miss Vince Flynn. Tom Clancy was good but the later authors using his name are wallowing in sex and profanity, so I gave them up. The Richaed Paul Evans/Michael Vey books are good, but too short and geared for kids. Plus the same archvillain has survived through all four books. Time for a change.
Nelson DeMille is off my list. I deleted the second book of his I read from my Nook after halfway through it. I did the same with another author I can't remember, because halfway through it was implying that the Gospels may be fiction. I jumped to the end of the book, and sure enough its message was that a missing epistle of Peter denied the resurrection of Jesus, but that the Christian religion served its purpose buy bringing civilization through the dark ages. I tossed that one into the trash.
Suggestions, anyone?I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.
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For suspense/mystery try J Mark Bertrand's Roland March series. He's a Christian but the novels aren't Christian per se although there is some Christian overtones. I found that to be pretty refreshing on the Christian literature front.
http://www.amazon.com/Back-Murder-Ro...back+on+murderWe know J6 wasn’t peaceful because they didn’t set the building on fire.
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Most of what I read is non-fiction anyway. Right now lots of theology stuff but that comes with the territory of being in seminary. I also like reading about history."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by Christianbookworm View PostThat's why I usually just stick with children's fiction. Have you read C. S. Lewis' space trilogy or the Chronicles of Narnia? Sci-fi and children's fantasy respectively."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by GioD View PostAs some of you know, I read pretty widely, and that includes books which are not necessarily pro-Christian and may not have Christian themes. I believe this is perfectly ethical and even important if one is well-formed in the faith, but some novels in my collection, while not being overt works of pornography, have sexually explicit scenes, and I am unsure of the ethics of reading them from a Christian standpoint. I have browsed around on other Christian sites and have basically seen 4 positions, but none of them I have seen really strongly argued for, at least among the other positions. They are:
1) It's fine to read the entire novel as long as you don't lust after it
2) It's fine to read the entire novel as long as you don't lust after it and it wasn't made with the intention of provoking lust
3) It's fine to read non-explicit parts of the novel, but skip the sex scenes
4) Skip the entire novel
I feel like my own position is somewhere on the spectrum of 2-3, but I am very unsure. Does anybody have some clarification on this? Note that due to my own denominational affiliation, I would especially appreciate Catholic input on this, but anybody can comment if they have something to say.
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Originally posted by Mr.Kott View PostThere are many sexual scenes portrayed in the Bible; But what you don't see is vulgar and detailed [sexual slang] explanations. Your parents have sex, but they do not come out and explain in vulgar/slang detail what took place. Since you are a prolific reader--you, better than anybody, will know what authors to avoid.If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!
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Originally posted by alaskazimm View PostFor suspense/mystery try J Mark Bertrand's Roland March series. He's a Christian but the novels aren't Christian per se although there is some Christian overtones. I found that to be pretty refreshing on the Christian literature front.
http://www.amazon.com/Back-Murder-Ro...back+on+murder
I will take a look J Mark Bertrand.
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