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April 12th 2003, 11:01 PM #1
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Male - Godless HeathenAugusta, golf, and men
I'm confused about this whole Augusta golf course issue. Apparently they don't want women there. I really can't figure out why, that is unless, it is a gay course. Are all those guys that are members closet homosexuals?
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April 13th 2003, 10:18 PM #2
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Male - OrthodoxI'm sure that's it
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April 13th 2003, 10:36 PM #3
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Male - ChristianI live here in Augusta. The Masters golf club is a restricted group because of male chauvinism, NOT homosexuality. It is one of the last bastions of old tradition, with ideologies like "women can't do this" or "women shouldn't do that".
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April 13th 2003, 10:48 PM #4
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Male - OrthodoxLet me pose this question:
Why is it not okay for Augusta to be male only?
Are clubs that are exlusive to gender wrong?
What about the girl scouts or lady fitness?We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all that is, seen and unseen. We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, light from light,true God from true God....
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April 13th 2003, 11:05 PM #5
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Female - ChristianI, as a woman, couldn't care less if they are male-only. More power to them.
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April 13th 2003, 11:08 PM #6
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Male - Godless HeathenIts not the end game that matters, but rather the intention of the rule. For instance, it would be wrong for them to exclude women because merely of their gender. Rather, it would be okay if the men did this in order so that they could be farting and smoking cigars without women being around so that they aren't embarressed.Today @ 10:48 PM post located here
Alden:
Let me pose this question:
Why is it not okay for Augusta to be male only?
As I said before, its the intentions of the action that bind whether they are wrong or not. I doubt you'd buy cookies from the Boy Scouts. That would be just weird. As for lady fitness, well, I don't know how much working your uterus needs, but I'm pretty sure that most other men are void of needing such exercising.Are clubs that are exlusive to gender wrong?
What about the girl scouts or lady fitness?"I am an alien spouse of female military personnel en route to the United States under public law 271 of the Congress." - Capt. Henri Rochard
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April 13th 2003, 11:15 PM #7
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Male - OrthodoxWay to not really answer the question.
As for lady fitness, well, I don't know how much working your uterus needs, but I'm pretty sure that most other men are void of needing such exercising.
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Who cares what the intent is? These groups are private, and as such, who says that they have to be all inclusive? It's not like they are using gov't money and are saying, "you chicks can't golf here". Privately funded groups have a right to set the policy regarding the activity of their group.
Here's a question:
Why don't the feminists, who want to play golf with a bunch of guys that they hate, go and build a ladies only golf course equal to that of augusta? I'm sure that they could find a few high-power women like Carly Fiorina (CEO, Hewlet-packard) to donate for the start-upWe believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all that is, seen and unseen. We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, light from light,true God from true God....
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and the life of the world to come. Amen.
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April 13th 2003, 11:24 PM #8
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Female - ChristianHmph. No fair. I wanna join the club so I can fart and smoke cigars, too. Farting and smoking aren't just for guys! Anything you can do I can do better......
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April 13th 2003, 11:30 PM #9
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Male - OrthodoxYou don't need to join a club if it's farting and cigars that you are after! Just meet pat and I at Cafe Pergolesi in Santa Cruz sometime in the next month.
We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all that is, seen and unseen. We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, light from light,true God from true God....
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We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. We look for the resurrection of the dead,
and the life of the world to come. Amen.
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April 13th 2003, 11:33 PM #10
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Female - ChristianYou're on, brotha!!! And bring some matches- we're gonna light 'em up!!!
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April 13th 2003, 11:41 PM #11
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Male - OrthodoxMatches? We don't use no stinking matches! Zippos all the way baby!!!
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April 13th 2003, 11:43 PM #12
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Male - Orthodoxbtw, is that avatar you, or just another selma hayek-like disguise? Or was it Janet? Or was it...heck, I can't keep em all straight.
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April 13th 2003, 11:49 PM #13
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Female - ChristianIt's me. Take a good look, I'm getting ready to be disguised again. BUUUUURRRRR.... hey!
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April 14th 2003, 02:20 AM #14
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I THINK it's something along those lines actually. They just want a place to get away where they can enjoy the company of men for awhile. It's just an adult version of GROSS (Get Rid Of Slimy girlS). I don't have any problem with this. My wife has a "girls' night out" every now and then. I think it's the same kind of thing.Today @ 04:08 AM post located here
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Its not the end game that matters, but rather the intention of the rule. For instance, it would be wrong for them to exclude women because merely of their gender. Rather, it would be okay if the men did this in order so that they could be farting and smoking cigars without women being around so that they aren't embarressed."We live in a culture that has, for centuries now, cultivated the idea that the skeptical person is always smarter than one who believes. You can be almost as stupid as a cabbage, as long as you doubt. The fashion of the age has identified mental sharpness with a pose, not with genuine intellectual method and character...Today it is the skeptics who are the social conformists, though because of powerful intellectual propaganda they continue to enjoy thinking of themselves as wildly individualistic and unbearably bright."
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April 14th 2003, 02:32 AM #15
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