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Regarding "The Stars Will Fall From Heaven" by Edward Adams

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  • Regarding "The Stars Will Fall From Heaven" by Edward Adams

    On certain places on the internet.. when I have seen a Christian bring up Preterism, or NT wright specifically. I will see a skeptic say something along the lines of

    "Oh I have read 'The Stars will Fall From Heaven' by Edward Adams, NT wright and Preterism is invalid."

    These skeptics seem to treat this book as a knockdown argument to NT Wright and also Preterism... but I am curious.. is it really a knockdown argument? Has anyone read it?

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    Originally posted by Leaf View Post
    On certain places on the internet.. when I have seen a Christian bring up Preterism, or NT wright specifically. I will see a skeptic say something along the lines of

    "Oh I have read 'The Stars will Fall From Heaven' by Edward Adams, NT wright and Preterism is invalid."

    These skeptics seem to treat this book as a knockdown argument to NT Wright and also Preterism... but I am curious.. is it really a knockdown argument? Has anyone read it?
    I would not regard it as "a knockdown argument" because the argument belittles Old Testament usage of language in the NT that quotes or alludes to Old Testament texts.

    ... Adams notes, “Old Testament usage is not necessarily determinative for New Testament usage” (51).

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