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Commentary Thread: Cerebrum123 & Leonhard regarding Charles Darwin
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --TassmanTags: None
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As I've pointed out before, Alfred Russel Wallace conceived of the theory of evolution independently of Darwin, and would probably be the name most commonly attached to it if he'd more aggressively promoted his findings. And Wallace explicitly condemned eugenics. So in an alternative timeline in which Darwin's ship sank while sailing to the Galapagos, the founder of evolutionary theory would be known for his anti-eugenic stance, and the debate thread wouldn't even exist.Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow.--Isaiah 1:17
I don't think that all forms o[f] slavery are inherently immoral.--seer
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Um, so what, SP? If the Muslims had succeeded in conquering Europe there probably wouldn't be a ToE anyway. So? Neither has anything to do with reality (a good thing in the latter case)."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostUm, so what, SP?
If the Muslims had succeeded in conquering Europe there probably wouldn't be a ToE anyway.Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow.--Isaiah 1:17
I don't think that all forms o[f] slavery are inherently immoral.--seer
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Originally posted by square_peg View PostSo Cerebrum's complaints about eugenics being intrinsic to the theory are wrong as well as irrelevant.
Originally posted by SPI'm confident that their scientists would've conceived of and discovered it eventually. Logic and science would've eventually revealed it.
And logic would have done no such thing. ToE is based on observational science - logic doesn't get you raw data. I suspect you are confusing logic with reason here - they aren't always interchangeable. Even so, reason would be on its own - few people wish to commit suicide over bird beaks."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
"Forgiveness is the way of love." Gary Chapman
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostIf the Muslims had succeeded in conquering Europe there probably wouldn't be a ToE anyway.
But personally, I'm just glad it's all a moot point; that they did not succeed in conquering Europe."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by square_peg View PostSo Cerebrum's complaints about eugenics being intrinsic to the theory are wrong as well as irrelevant."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostThis is false. Just because the creator of a theory doesn't realise its implications doesn't mean those implications don't exist.
I'm sure that Pasteur and Koch never foresaw that Germ Theory would be cited by the Nazis as the scientific justification for things like the Holocaust.
And I doubt that Newton ever predicted that his gravitational theories would be a cornerstone of modern ballistics resulting in millions of future deaths from firearms, artillery, rockets and missiles.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by square_peg View PostAs I've pointed out before, Alfred Russel Wallace conceived of the theory of evolution independently of Darwin, and would probably be the name most commonly attached to it if he'd more aggressively promoted his findings. And Wallace explicitly condemned eugenics. So in an alternative timeline in which Darwin's ship sank while sailing to the Galapagos, the founder of evolutionary theory would be known for his anti-eugenic stance, and the debate thread wouldn't even exist.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostUm, so what, SP? If the Muslims had succeeded in conquering Europe there probably wouldn't be a ToE anyway. So? Neither has anything to do with reality (a good thing in the latter case).
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