Thread: Judge rules against boy
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September 7th 2004, 01:57 PM #1
Judge rules against boy
http://www.bangornews.com/editorialn....cfm?ID=433042
Just curious what everyone's thoughts are on this...I've come to realize that Ivo just might be right about more things than we give him credit for. And yes, that is scary. -Little Shepherd
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September 7th 2004, 02:07 PM #2
Re: Judge rules against boy
Parents wrong
Judge right
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September 7th 2004, 02:10 PM #3
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While it's a shame that the lad has grown depressed, I agree.Judge right
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September 7th 2004, 02:14 PM #4
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Can't get to the link.
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September 7th 2004, 02:17 PM #5
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Here you go:
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September 7th 2004, 02:20 PM #6
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Gee, MOM, why don't you make him go out and play? Why will he just be sitting around at home? There are other options, while possibly inconvienent, that you could employ.
Or are you too lazy?
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September 7th 2004, 03:01 PM #7
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Here's the deal. This is a situation in which a bunch of adults are acting like buttheads and a child with obvious special needs is being punished for it. The parent's obviously don't trust the school to properly educate their child or else they wouldnt be homeschooling (private educational team...). I think there is some suspicion on the part of the parents with respect to allowing the school to do another assesment, one not done by a "private educational team"-- he'd typically have to spend time with some district professional, either a social worker or psychologist who'd also have to interview the parents and pry into their business. I'll have to forward this story to my wife and see what she thinks...being a school social worker and all...
At the same time the district knows that they are making a request that the parents won't entertain, and as long as the school makes the offer contingent on the assessment, then they won't have to deal with the kid. It's also somewhat suspicious for the school to suspend the kid for his playground behavior. That happens on a playground. Ask any teacher. It espcially happens with special ed kids. Now granted, they may not have any other way to keep him accountable, but the move seems a little dramatic.
Personally, I don't think the parents should be trying to homeschool a special ed kid with obvious severe special needs. The whole point to including a kid in a social environment is so that he can learn things like how to behave on a playground. It's not like they are going to try and brainwash an AS kid with evolution or the gay agenda...
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September 7th 2004, 04:50 PM #8
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Originally posted by olon powell
should have read further down you someone posted the article.
Last edited by RumTumTugger; September 7th 2004 at 05:19 PM. Reason: question asked already answered
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September 7th 2004, 04:56 PM #9
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I must agree that suspending a kid for those reasons is a bit harsh, I have to wonder what reason it was that made him do those things, because kids with AS do have problems understanding what to do in social situtations. I would also like to say that I've read some books on it and it would help some kids with Aspergers to be home-schooled, because the problems they have in reading social cues. I will admit though, Aspergers doesn't mean that the kids aren't intelligent, kids with Apsergers usually have average or above average intelligence, especially in subjects such as Science. Like I said, there was probably somthing that the kid didn't understand, or that caused him to become extremely stressed at the time.
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September 7th 2004, 05:03 PM #10
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Originally posted by quacamole
I'd like to remind both of you that none of us has all the facts about the child's behavior. Consider:
Originally posted by Nicholas
"Tuesday's decision followed an 11-hour court hearing over three days that included about a dozen witnesses . . . ."Obviously there was a lot more said about his behavior than what we will ever know
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September 7th 2004, 05:16 PM #11
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Point taken, but they only said he swore at a teach and disobeyed the teacher and the principal, not anything dangerous from the description.
Originally posted by Minnesota
“History is the witness that testifies to the passing of time; it illumines reality, vitalizes memory, provides guidance in daily life and brings us tidings of antiquity.”
-Cicero
“When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained.”
-Mark Twain
"Sometimes it's better to light a flamethrower than curse the darkness."
-Terry Pratchett
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September 7th 2004, 06:58 PM #12
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Not sure what to make of this one. Some teachers can be real pinheads about some things and are as socially underdeveloped as some of the little munchkins running around on the playground. Then again, this kid does have Asperger's, and there's really no way of telling how difficult he'd actually been.
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September 7th 2004, 07:18 PM #13
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And the gay agenda shows its ugly face again........
Originally posted by guacamole
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September 7th 2004, 07:31 PM #14
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Haha! More conspiracy theory mayhem!
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September 7th 2004, 11:50 PM #15
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Personally I agree with the judge's decision, I think the school was extremely gracious in giving him access to the playground and library, considering that he didn't attend, and his behavior was inexcusable. And speaking as someone with AS, I can vouch for how hard it can be to know how to act socially, but it's still possible to know that certain behavior is unacceptable and has consequences.
I've come to realize that Ivo just might be right about more things than we give him credit for. And yes, that is scary. -Little Shepherd
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