"Feel Good" Preachers and "Prosperity" Preachers

[Truthseeker]

No one was talking about the Roman Catholics! ???

Perhaps I should ask for this sentence "Rewards in heaven are as result of good works an being Christlike" to be reworded.

[FarEastBird]

Hey FEB! Go to the Tektonics area and try to convince jpholding of the truth of your claims! I dare you!

One sign of wisdom is seen through how people behave. I believed he had influenced people here to behave like him. I do not feel the urge of the spirit to speak to him regardless i find disagreement with some of his beliefs.

Anyways, I am not after making a name of myself. If I am really after making a name for myself, I would have gone to other forums as well and pursued.

For me, everything is God's work. I am waiting for a prophecy to be fulfilled. God had given to us, through prophecies, what will happen in the last days. Just as how the apostles and disciples worked according to prophecy, I will do the same.

[Christianbookworm]

I am sharing my knowledge openly, but you are against it and some of you had called me names even when they admit that they do not understand what I was talking about.



No, he is not. And that is certainly what I want others to believe. And this OP, as a matter of fact, is aimed to know God, and to avoid to believing on mere good promises.





Humility? I have upheld with high regards the things I know right, but I never looked down on people.

By the way, preaching God and of teaching of his truth has nothing to do with humility. Do not mistook my decisiveness to stand on my faith as an act of hostility. And I do understand the same of everyone who stand on their faith. But what is wrong is wrong. If one find himself being wrong, and admit it, then that is humility.

This is vain subject though, one can just read the posts against me and they will know things about me on this subject. (((except, of course, who posted them, and their allies))))

I still think you may be suffering from the Dunning-Kruger effect.

[Jedidiah]

I am sharing my knowledge openly, but you are against it and some of you had called me names even when they admit that they do not understand what I was talking about.

I may be wrong but I seem to recall you posting that you could not explain that knowledge to us. If I am please forgive me, that understanding was what led to my accusation of gnosticism. Knowledge that only the more spiritually developed could understand.

Humility? I have upheld with high regards the things I know right, but I never looked down on people.

Lack of humility is what it seemed (as I wrote) to be you were exhibiting. As always I could be wrong. I have not so accused you. The only accusation I have made AFAIR was that of gnosticism which may have, as I stated above, been incorrect. I await your explanation.

Can you explain what you are trying to get across to us briefly and in simple language. I have failed to understand so far as is clear from the above.

[FarEastBird]

I may be wrong but I seem to recall you posting that you could not explain that knowledge to us. If I am please forgive me, that understanding was what led to my accusation of gnosticism. Knowledge that only the more spiritually developed could understand.

As I was saying from my previous posts, what I promote is simply wisdom. Wisdom does not merely speak of having the knowledge, but of the change of behaviour too. We cannot simply rely on the knowledge we get from learning, but also of our experiences. Wisdom is not simply promoting idealism, because idealism would not work on our brethren that do have "weaker" faith. People who behave without "self control" is because they cannot defend their own beliefs. And even if they can defend their beliefs, resorting, in such behaviour is their lack of the ability to control their sin. "Self control" is not something we can learn by mere hearing lectures/encouragement/teaching; yet it is in the spirit of our words to lead people to have self control. If one cannot have self control then he lacks the knowledge of the depth of sins; just merely because of his lack of "self control." Even if the person can recite knowledge of about "self control," and yet when such person lacks self control, then he is still lacking wisdom about self control. The preceding demonstration is the reason why I say that the wisdom that I speak of cannot be merely explained by words. However, through the preceding demonstration, it "may" lead a person into understanding the depths of wisdom about self control.


Now, I could understand if one would not easily grasp my words because I am still in the process of trying to lead you unto such wisdom. But if one respond with an unhealthy attitude he would be hindering himself to know wisdom because of such behavior. (((If I may, I advise that people seek first why they cannot have self control; like jotting down nonesense for childish self entertainment, etc...)))

Lack of humility is what it seemed (as I wrote) to be you were exhibiting. As always I could be wrong. I have not so accused you. The only accusation I have made AFAIR was that of gnosticism which may have, as I stated above, been incorrect. I await your explanation.

I believe that the superiority that you are speaking of is nothing but the superiority of my words. If there is that you feel in my words, that is nothing but my care as a big brother to his brethren. The word of God is the word of life; so understand the importance of it in sharing to the brethren. And so, how else would I feel in persuading earnestly my brethren in Christ? I have, in my utmost care, to speak boldly for the sake of the word of God, and for the benefit of my brethren. Misunderstanding may case is nothing but due to envy, or trying to hide the weaknesses of one's belief.

Can you explain what you are trying to get across to us briefly and in simple language. I have failed to understand so far as is clear from the above.

As I said in one of my posts, I am after a prophecy.


The church was blinded so that the prophesied Gentiles will come in. I seek of people whom God sends in these last times. If I can't find them, it is probably not the time yet for the prophecy to be fulfilled. In any case, I would only follow as what the prophecy foretold.


But as for now, I share my faith and of things I understand of the Godhead.

[Christianbookworm]

What's your first language? Because your English is sadly not very good at all. Looks like you used a translation software that put your words in a blender.

[heartablaze]

So...what does this all have to do with feel good preachers and prosperity preachers? I think most people will agree that what they preach is wrong.

[Jedidiah]

You will have to go read a bunch of FarEastBird's posts. He uses terms that we use but has his own meanings and implications. That is why he is in Unorthodox Theology. I have tried to understand what he has to say, but he never actually say's it. Just things like that last post with no semantic significance that I can find. A lot of high sounding words without a message.

[Christianbookworm]

אני משתמש בגוגל תרגום לתרגם את המשפט הזה .
Είμαι χρησιμοποιώντας το Google Translate για να μεταφράσει αυτή την πρόταση
Ես օգտագործում google թարգմանել է թարգմանել այս նախադասությունը.
Wǒ shǐyòng gǔgē fānyì lái fānyì zhè jù huà.

[heartablaze]

אני משתמש בגוגל תרגום לתרגם את המשפט הזה .
Είμαι χρησιμοποιώντας το Google Translate για να μεταφράσει αυτή την πρόταση
Ես օգտագործում google թարգմանել է թարգմանել այս նախադասությունը.
Wǒ shǐyòng gǔgē fānyì lái fānyì zhè jù huà.

Hahaha nice!

[Christianbookworm]

He may be better off using Google translate... you still alive FEB?

[FarEastBird]

He may be better off using Google translate... you still alive FEB?

Very much spiritually alive, thank you for asking.

[Christianbookworm]

Very much spiritually alive, thank you for asking.

You're a ghost???

[FarEastBird]

You're a ghost???

Heb 1:14
14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?


If the word "spirits" in the above verse would mean ghosts, then I guess so. What do you think, am I a ghost?

[JohnnyP]

What's your first language? Because your English is sadly not very good at all. Looks like you used a translation software that put your words in a blender.

Maybe this will help:

You lack self control because you can't defend beliefs and if you can defend beliefs you can lack self control unlearnable by hearing words but by hearing the spirit of words leading to self control unless you lack self control because you lack knowledge because you lack self control even if you have knowledge but lack wisdom unexplainable by words that may lead to understanding wisdom about self control unless you don't understand that you lack self control because you can't defend beliefs...

Understand?