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  • #16
    I'm going to go the other way - no, being proud of your skin color and/or ancestry is not inherently racist. If it were then 'black pride' would necessarily be racist as well.

    What is prejudicial, however, is when you decide X group is necessarily better than every other group and promptly start judging individuals on that basis.

    For the record, I think pride in nothing but skin color is pretty danged stupid and petty. Hatred on the basis of skin color is also pretty danged stupid and petty. Hatred on the basis of someone else's hatred based on skin color is also pretty danged stupid and petty. Ultimately, you're getting worked up over something that doesn't truly matter in the least. I'm looking at you, Whag and PM - the problem isn't the skin color thing (that's just dumb) - the problem is the self sanctifying hatred and looking down on others. It's the same critter no matter what you excuse it with - and just as stupid and destructive.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Psychic Missile View Post
      The idea that the white race is the best race is racist, yes.
      Why? Is there a race that has done more in science, medicine, technology and creating a democratic form of government.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
        I would prefer to characterize it as Western civilization rather than race, and limit it to the last 500 years or so. The Chinese civilization invented some things well before the West (paper, gunpowder, printing), and it's not clear that Western civilization will maintain its current advantage in science and invention. What you describe is racist, yes.
        Ok so Western civilization - which is pretty much white.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
          Whatever 'ism' you want to tag it with, the real enemy is hate.
          I'd say it is sin, but that's just quibbling...
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          • #20
            Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
            You melanin-deficient freak!



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            • #21
              Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
              Except Hispanics.
              I think many Hispanics would consider themselves European and white. They certainly are not brown, not in Spain.
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              • #22
                That's what
                - She

                Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by seer View Post
                  So you are against Black pride too?
                  That depends on how obnoxious they are about it. I certainly wouldn't compare their pride in ancestral endurance with your "fake" pride in white scientific achievements (geological, cosmological, biological, etc) that you don't really believe.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by whag View Post
                    That depends on how obnoxious they are about it. I certainly wouldn't compare their pride in ancestral endurance with your "fake" pride in white scientific achievements (geological, cosmological, biological, etc) that you don't really believe.
                    What do you mean by "ancestral endurance?"
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by whag View Post
                      That depends on how obnoxious they are about it. I certainly wouldn't compare their pride in ancestral endurance with your "fake" pride in white scientific achievements (geological, cosmological, biological, etc) that you don't really believe.
                      So black pride is basically OK...
                      Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Zymologist View Post
                        I guess I just don't understand the idea of being proud of one's "race." I mean, I'm about as white as they come, but am I proud of it? Well...no. I'm not "proud" of my hair color, either. I do have white skin, and I do have red hair. I don't see the point of being proud of it.

                        Edit: Sometimes I wish I wasn't as white as I am, because then I probably wouldn't sunburn quite so easily.
                        HA due to my African origins I have more melanin,than you have in the palm of your hand.
                        Sunburn? Never heard of it.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Cerealman View Post
                          HA due to my African origins I have more melanin,than you have in the palm of your hand.
                          Sunburn? Never heard of it.
                          I envy you.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Cerealman View Post
                            HA due to my African origins I have more melanin,than you have in the palm of your hand.
                            Sunburn? Never heard of it.
                            Skin pigments do not exhibit much in the palms of hands, so no big deal.

                            And have you really never experienced sunburn? I have black friends who have indeed experienced fairly severe sunburn, folks with pretty dark skin.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Jedidiah View Post
                              Skin pigments do not exhibit much in the palms of hands, so no big deal.

                              And have you really never experienced sunburn? I have black friends who have indeed experienced fairly severe sunburn, folks with pretty dark skin.
                              Nope not really then again I don't go outside as often as I used to.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Zymologist View Post
                                What do you mean by "ancestral endurance?"
                                That sounds racist! Dunno, the out of Africa theory?
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