On the Subject of Rewards...

[Freak]

Today @ 07:30 PM post located here
InquisitorKind:



No. A better question would be:

Are there other rewards than Jesus?

~Matt

I don't know. I believe the Bible is not clear but I do know this:

"I am the bread of life. He who comes to me will never go hungry, and he who believes in me will never be thirsty."

So, in light of this truth, in Christ will we need to hunger for rewards when Jesus tells us that with Him there will be no more hunger or thirst?

[Freak]

Today @ 07:32 PM post located here
cirisme:



It depends on what you are talking about. If you believe that the rewards that 1 Corinthians 3 talks about is salvation, then salvation is works based.

There are two types of rewards: one is works based, the other is not. We do not know what the rewards are that 1 Cor 3 is talking about, but at the very least, we can rest assured that it is not salvation because it is based on works. We do know, however, that Hebrews 11:6 is talking about salvation; for it is given to everyone that seeks Him, not just those whose works survive the fire.

But having Jesus is enough, right? Do we need to earn rewards for some reason? What reason would that be?

[$cirisme]

When we come to Christ is there anything else more to desire then HIM? Jesus told us we would no longer hunger or thirst (even rewards) for anything.

Seperate the issues of the reward of salvation and the reward(s) of good works, and you will clearly see.

And I do not hunger or thirst for rewards, no one does. But I do hunger and thirst to please my Master. But I guess that makes me a heretic, huh?

[$cirisme]

I believe the Bible is not clear

It is very clear, as long as you make the distinction and do believe that salvation can not be earned.

[Freak]

Cirisme--

God's Word tell us:

Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in the heavenly realms with every spiritual blessing in Christ.

We have already been blessed with every spiritual blessing, correct? It's because the very life of Christ has been given to us. What more could we need?

and in Him you have been made complete, and (2) He is the head over allrule and authority.

Are we lacking anything (like rewards) in Christ in light of this truth?

[$cirisme]

But having Jesus is enough, right?

For salvation?

More than enough!

Do we need to earn rewards for some reason?

For salvation?

Absolutely not.

And you're asking the wrong question, the question should be, "Should we do good works?"

[$cirisme]

God's Word tell us:

It also says...

1Co 3:14-15 If any man's work remains which he built on it, he will receive a reward. (15) If any man's work is burned, he will suffer loss, but he himself will be saved, but as through fire.

Yet they both are saved regardless of whether they performed good works, or received the reward.(which would not make sense if the reward spoken of here is salvation)

[Freak]

[i]Today @ 07:37 PM
And you're asking the wrong question, the question should be, "Should we do good works?"

Good works. We were created for good works--Ephesians 2:10 is clear on this.

But, do we do good works to gain something, like rewards? Even in light of these truths:

and in Him you have been made complete, and He is the head over all rule and authority

Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in the heavenly realms with every spiritual blessing in Christ.

[$cirisme]

Good works. We were created for good works--Ephesians 2:10 is clear on this.

But, do we do good works to gain something, like rewards?

I can not answer for you, my answer is--"Absolutely not!"

I do it because Christ died for me and I want to share that amazing love. Whether Christ will choose to reward me(or anyone) for that reason is entirely up to Him.

[$cirisme]

Today @ 12:40 PM post located here
cirisme:



It also says...



Yet they both are saved regardless of whether they performed good works, or received the reward.(which would not make sense if the reward spoken of here is salvation)

[Freak]

[i]Today @ 07:43 PM
I do it because Christ died for me and I want to share that amazing love. Whether Christ will choose to reward me(or anyone) for that reason is entirely up to Him.

Huh? But according to the Scriptures:

Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in the heavenly realms with every spiritual blessing in Christ.

We have already been blessed with spiritual blessing in CHRIST!

Jesus is our reward. I cannot think of anything better.

[$cirisme]

Jesus is our reward.

So, some who will be in heaven will have Jesus and others won't?

1Co 3:14-15 If any man's work remains which he built on it, he will receive a reward. (15) If any man's work is burned, he will suffer loss, but he himself will be saved, but as through fire.

Is that what you're saying?

[Freak]

[i]Today @ 07:47 PM
So, some who will be in heaven will have Jesus and others won't?

Huh?

The Scriptures are clear:

and in Him you have been made complete, and He is the head over all rule and authority.

Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in the heavenly realms with every spiritual blessing in Christ.

In Christ we are:

Complete & blessed with every spiritual blessing

What more could you want?

[$cirisme]

Freaky, freaky, freak...

What more could you want?

It has nothing to do with what I want but has everything to do with what God says...

1Co 3:14-15 If any man's work remains which he built on it, he will receive a reward. (15) If any man's work is burned, he will suffer loss, but he himself will be saved, but as through fire.

People will receive A reward, if their works are good. If their works are burned, but they accepted Christ, they are saved, anyway! IMO, this verse is the best verse for proving that salvation is eternal and not based on works, but you're ruining that argument by claiming that the reward is salvation.

As for this...

Complete & blessed with every spiritual blessing

What if the reward is not spiritual, what if it's physical?

I don't know about you, but I'll trust in the inerrancy and wisdom of scripture, over the reasoning of man.

[Dee Dee Warren]

Today @ 02:13 PM post located here
Freak:



Huh?

Colossians 2:10 tells us that we are already "complete in Christ" so how can we have an increased capacity in light of this truth?

Ephesians 1:3 tells us we have been blessed with every spiritual blessing. So, in light of this truth, how do you respond?

I respond Freak that I was repeating what I heard for sake of discussion. I did not say I held to it, I said i was interested in the subject. So sorry, the fight you are spoiling for just isn't there.