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May 6th 2003, 10:17 PM #1
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Does the bible say the earth is flat?
Does it actually explicitly say or imply that the earth is flat in biblical text?
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May 8th 2003, 01:30 AM #2
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May 8th 2003, 01:30 AM #3
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July 26th 2003, 03:46 PM #6
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Re: Does the bible say the earth is flat?
Hi there.cynara:
Does it actually explicitly say or imply that the earth is flat in biblical text?
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As Christian commentaries and bible dictionaries show, the Biblical writers understood the Earth to be flat. I have collected what the major Christian commentators say here:
http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/sho...889#post149889
Hope that helps.
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July 28th 2003, 03:50 AM #7
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Hi all!
Remember the classic Bugs Bunny cartoon where Christopher Columbus was trying to persuade Ferdinand & Isabella that the world was round.
COLUMBUS: "The world, itsa round!"
FERDINAND: "The world, itsa flat."
COLUMBUS: "The world, itsa round...lika my head!"
POW-WHAP-BOOM! [Ferdinand bashes Columbus on his noggin' with the royal sceptre]
FERDINAND: "The world, itsa flat like your head!"
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July 28th 2003, 06:29 AM #8
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No, the Bible uses equivocal language
No. Liberal commentaries by the ignorant-of-physics troll Banks read too much into the equivocal language of Scripture. See Is the ’erets (earth) flat? Equivocal language in the geography of Genesis 1 and the Old Testament: a response to Paul H. Seely.05-07-2003 @ 01:17 PM post located here
cynara:
Does it actually explicitly say or imply that the earth is flat in biblical text?
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July 28th 2003, 06:35 AM #9
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The Columbus v flat earth story is a total fabrication
Might be funny in other circumstances, (e.g. the King and Queen of Spain with Italian accentsToday @ 06:50 PM post located here
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Remember the classic Bugs Bunny cartoon where Christopher Columbus was trying to persuade Ferdinand & Isabella that the world was round.
COLUMBUS: “The world, itsa round!”
FERDINAND: “The world, itsa flat. ”
COLUMBUS: “The world, itsa round...lika my head!"
POW-WHAP-BOOM! [Ferdinand bashes Columbus on his noggin' with the royal sceptre]
FERDINAND: “The world, itsa flat like your head!”
), but here it inadvertently perpetuates a vile humanist myth (not meant to be a reflection against SSV).
Fact is, this idea of Columbus fighting flat earth belief is a fable invented by Washington Irving, and gleefully perpetuated by 19th century antitheists like Draper and White, who are much believed by the village atheists on TWeb. However, such a skit is impossible, because a round earth was undisputed in the church -- see The Myth of the Flat Earth by Jeffrey Burton Russell.Last edited by Socrates; July 28th 2003 at 06:50 AM.
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July 28th 2003, 06:40 AM #10
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Hi all!
Socrates, thanks for the info. Our Sages also accepted a round earth.
Historicity aside, it is a funny cartoon. (I love the classic Warner Bros. cartoons.)
Be well!
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"Peace, peace to him that is far off and to him that is near." [Isaiah 57:19]
Eleanor of Aquitaine: Of course he has a knife. He always has a knife. We all have knives. It's 1183 and we're barbarians. How clear we make it. Oh, my piglets, we're the origins of war. Not history's forces nor the times nor justice nor the lack of it nor causes nor religions nor ideas nor kinds of government nor any other thing! We are the killers; we breed war. We carry it, like syphilis, inside. Dead bodies rot in field and stream because the living ones are rotten. For the love of God, can't we love each other just a little? That's how peace begins. We have so much to love each other for. We have such possibilities, my children; we could change the world. (From The Lion in Winter)
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July 28th 2003, 06:53 AM #11
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No problemo.
I can confirm that. I cited Ibn Ezra on this site, where he clearly affirmed a round earth.Our Sages also accepted a round earth.
Me tooHistoricity aside, it is a funny cartoon. (I love the classic Warner Bros. cartoons.)
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July 28th 2003, 07:45 AM #12
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Hi all!
Socrates, I know that what I'm about to say is off-topic, but I just can't help myself.
WABBIT SEASON!
Be well!
ssv
"Peace, peace to him that is far off and to him that is near." [Isaiah 57:19]
Eleanor of Aquitaine: Of course he has a knife. He always has a knife. We all have knives. It's 1183 and we're barbarians. How clear we make it. Oh, my piglets, we're the origins of war. Not history's forces nor the times nor justice nor the lack of it nor causes nor religions nor ideas nor kinds of government nor any other thing! We are the killers; we breed war. We carry it, like syphilis, inside. Dead bodies rot in field and stream because the living ones are rotten. For the love of God, can't we love each other just a little? That's how peace begins. We have so much to love each other for. We have such possibilities, my children; we could change the world. (From The Lion in Winter)
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July 28th 2003, 08:37 AM #14
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Hi all!
Thanks Solly, I needed that!
Be well!
ssv
"Peace, peace to him that is far off and to him that is near." [Isaiah 57:19]
Eleanor of Aquitaine: Of course he has a knife. He always has a knife. We all have knives. It's 1183 and we're barbarians. How clear we make it. Oh, my piglets, we're the origins of war. Not history's forces nor the times nor justice nor the lack of it nor causes nor religions nor ideas nor kinds of government nor any other thing! We are the killers; we breed war. We carry it, like syphilis, inside. Dead bodies rot in field and stream because the living ones are rotten. For the love of God, can't we love each other just a little? That's how peace begins. We have so much to love each other for. We have such possibilities, my children; we could change the world. (From The Lion in Winter)
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