South African Rift sediments show too much time for Flood

[grmorton]

This is another picture I took at the Soc. Exploration Geophysicists conference last month.

Once again, when looking at seismic data you need to look for thickening and thinning of the sediments (the black and light lineations) towards a given direction. If there is no thinning, then the sediments were deposited on a flat undeformed surface. That is what we see in the area noted by the red arrow. This layer was originally flat and horizontal. It was deformed and created a steep slope. How do we know? The sediments just above it (*marked with a green arrow) form a wedge which pinches out about 1/3 of the way from the right side of the seismic line near where the words 'up dip potential' can be found.

This shows two features which are difficult to explain in the global flood. First, there must be some time for the deformation to occur. Secondly, the pinch out of the wedge of sediment shows that sedimentation was not occurring on the topographic high. Interestingly, the orange sediments, when seen in the oil well show sedimentologic indications of being a landslide.

The orange layer is an interesting layer and is the subject of this picture. It is a submarine landslide. It couldn't have happened without the tall, steep hill seen on this section. But, even after the landslide, there was a period of slow deposition which can be seen in the wedge of sediment immediately above the orange layer and is topped by the light blue line--look closely

Then there was a period of time when the sedimentation covered the hill marked with the red arrow. You can see the sediment covering the entire hill, which means that the hill by this time was beneath the sea and was being deposited upon.

But then the area came above sea level again. We know this because of the erosion marked by the light blue arrow. You can see the seismic reflections terminating from below upon the post erosion sediments. This is clearly an erosional unconformity.

Each of the above steps required time, much time. You are looking at a around 10,000 feet of sediment in this seismic line. The events seen and detailed by seismic data from around the world simply does not support the concept of a global flood. Yet none of this data ever makes it onto the pages of Ex Nihilo or CRSQ or into the Impact series of ICR. The leaders of the YEC community do not tell their people the whole story. This is the saddest thing about YECdom. Their leaders only talk about half the data ignoring what they can't explain.

[rach12]

The leaders of the YEC community do not tell their people the whole story. This is the saddest thing about YECdom. Their leaders only talk about half the data ignoring what they can't explain.

Yep!!! That's the modus operandi of YECism - mutate the data.

What I think is sad is that ignorance is being purposely exploited. YEC scientists are not dumb, they know exactly what they are doing.

[rogero]

Yep!!! That's the modus operandi of YECism - mutate the data.

What I think is sad is that ignorance is being purposely exploited. YEC scientists are not dumb, they know exactly what they are doing.

I concur. We see the fruit of the YEC leadership's effort in several of the active Natural Sciences and Cosmogony threads promulgated by effectively indoctrinated laypersons. It's a shame,

[Minnesota]

And the YEC duplicity is all the more notable because its apologists are ostensibly Christians, people who take pride in their moral character, and would like others to believe their actions are in concert with that morality, particularly when it comes to helping others gain a better understanding of their faith. That the YEC agenda is rife with deliberate deceit is a clear announcement that its leadership cares little about Christian morals or in being true Christians. I am assuming that true Christians frown on duplicity and deceit no matter what the cause.

[grmorton]

I am assuming that true Christians frown on duplicity and deceit no matter what the cause.

I do. I am embarassed by the intentional intransigence among both laity and YEC leaders. I suspect that many of them are like I was when a YEC. I knew in my heart of hearts the logical gymnastics I had to go about to maintain that balanced belief system. Unfortunately for YEC, I finally looked in the mirror and didn't like what I saw. I realized that I had to change

[NeilUnreal]

I admire the YEC laity, they are the ones who at least go out and join the battle (against evilution) using only their faith and the poor ammo they are given. I just hope and pray it doesn't damage their faith when they realize that ammo is a box of duds.

-Neil

[grmorton]

I admire the YEC laity, they are the ones who at least go out and join the battle (against evilution) using only their faith and the poor ammo they are given. I just hope and pray it doesn't damage their faith when they realize that ammo is a box of duds.

-Neil

It hurt my faith when I found that out. It also hurt my trust of my fellow Christian apologists. When they don't tell you the truth, it gets a bet tough trusting what they say.