JohnSparks's pick for December 1st 2004 ~ Jude3b witnessing about the nature of God

[Sparko]

Jude3b makes a clear and concise witness about the nature of God. Great job.

Originally posted by Jude3b in the thread Islam and terrorism on December 1st 2004:

Say. He Allah is One, the eternally besought all. He begets not, nor is he begotten. Quran
I am a strong believer in this concept and anything that is contray to it, I must reject. If I am to worship god, I will only worship god not some concept that was made up by man. I must worship the god of all the prophets. This is the god of both jesus and muhammad. The god who created both the heavens and the earth. The god who created jesus and the god who will judge me after I past from this life. I also believe that it is raceism to portray gods son as a european with blue eyes and long stright hair, contray to the description in ths bible. By portraying god as a european, it makes other people think that they are inferior because they are not a part of the god-like race. The trinity goes completely against all logic

Dear raj215:

Thank you for your response. Please do not be offended, but, as an unsaved person, without a personal Savior - you simply cannot clearly understand the Godhead. If you would read the New Testament of the Holy Bible - and try to read it with an open heart and mind (which I understand is nearly impossible for you - because of your religious bias) - you would start to understand The Trinity. Reading it would prove to be a real blessing to you.

I cannot adequately explain the Trinity in the limited space of a single post, clearly enough to persuade you, but I will tell you what the Word of God teaches on the subject.

The theological term "trinity" signifies the union of three Persons - Father, Son, and Holy Spirit - in the Godhead. If Christ, with his marvelous perfections, be not truly God, then instead of bringing man to God, he has only succeeded in revealing to us the impassable gulf that exists between us and the divine One; but if he truly is "God manifest in the flesh" for the purpose of transforming sinful man into his own image, then we are assured of our moral and spiritual correspondence and communion with the Father in heaven.

Now Raj, as I have already stated, you do not understand the concept of the trinity and you cannot, because you are not born-again. These things are "spiritually discerned" and a mystery to you. Even though incomprehensible to you and to so many others, no one has yet shown that it involves any real contradiction. What demonstrated truth does it oppose? Are we not surrounded by many things that are in a real sense mysterious?

Raj, please consider H 2 0 for a moment. It is always H 2 0 and yet we might see it as water, or perhaps it evaporates and becomes a gas, or when it gets cold, below 32 degrees - it turns into ice. But it is always H 2 0. So, even it is a type of trinity.

Raj, even you and I are a sort of trinity, possessing intellect, sensibility, and will; and yet these distinct elements are in some unexplained and perhaps unexplainable, manner wondrously blended in an undoubted unity.

While this does not explain nor prove the exact nature of the Godhead, yet it should lead us to expect in the Infinite One a greater degree of mystery than exists within ourselves, and should caution us against rejecting everything that can not be brought down to the level of the finite mind.

The basis of our theology respecting God should be laid solely in what is revealed to us in the Holy Scriptures (Holy Bible). If we appeal directly to them, we find it is impossible to avoid the doctrine of the Trinity taught therein without doing great violence to scores of plain texts bearing on the subject. The Word of God teaches:
1) The Father, The Son, and the Holy Spirit are represented as special persons distinct from each other.
2) They are classed together, separate from all other beings.
3) Divine titles are applied to each.
4) Divine attributes are ascribed to each.
5) Divine words are attributed to each.

YET THE WORD OF GOD STATES THAT THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD!

If you need help with exact verses to check out the facts I have just stated, let me know and I will gladly supply them. There are many, many verses that clearly teach this in both the Old and New Testaments of the Holy Bible.

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Wonderful Post Jude

Good Pick :johnsparks:

[Jude3b]

Jude3b makes a clear and concise witness about the nature of God. Great job.

Thank you John,

I appreciate your compliment. I just pray it can get through to some of our dear Muslim friends who will read it.