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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostSiam,
We're not talking about "onesies and twosies" converting from Islam - this thread is about THOUSANDS, often whole villages, converting to Christianity. And it's not about becoming atheists --- it's about Muslims coming to Jesus.
It's about documented "movements" of 1,000 or more Muslims at a time, and the starting of 100 or more Churches in a "movement", with MANY such movements taking place in recent years.
If you'd like to start a thread about Muslims turning to atheism, please feel free to do that, OK?
Thanks
CP
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostHistorically and scripturally the Messianic tradition has been with Islam since the beginning, including the return of Christ. Essentially in Islam there is succession of Messiahs including Mohammed.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostYeah, that's totally not what we're talking about here.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostHistorically and scripturally the Messianic tradition has been with Islam since the beginning, including the return of Christ. Essentially in Islam there is succession of Messiahs including Mohammed.
I think you are projecting your Baha'i beliefs onto Islam. Everything I've ever seen points to Islam seeing Jesus as the Messiah, just not understanding what that really means. Mohammed is never described as the Messiah, or even as a Messiah of some kind. He's only ever described as Allah's Prophet of Messenger.
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Originally posted by Cerebrum123 View Post
I think you are projecting your Baha'i beliefs onto Islam. Everything I've ever seen points to Islam seeing Jesus as the Messiah, just not understanding what that really means. Mohammed is never described as the Messiah, or even as a Messiah of some kind. He's only ever described as Allah's Prophet of Messenger.Does he who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you do so by works of the law, or by hearing with faith? -Galatians 3:5
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Originally posted by Pentecost View PostI was speaking with Siam in another thread, and he said something to the effect that there are two types of prophets, but Jesus gets a different title, and it is messiah.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Yes, they may have even copied Jesus unique title as the "Messiah", but islam has lost its Old Testament meaning and made that title practically null and void, tragically for our muslim friends.
It lost the real meaning because muhamed was illiterate and ignorant of the proper, complete contents of the Torah, Psalms and Gospel.
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostBut did this "messiah" lead a sinless life and die on a cross to atone for the sins of the world? Did he die and rise again?
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