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January 3rd 2005, 12:32 PM #1
Adam and Eve: Charactoristics of Sin
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Much can be learned the fall of Adam and Eve in regards to sin.
Numerals 1-3, 5 are paraphrased from
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1)Sin always questions God's truth or word.
They had knowledge of sin, they understood what it meant to disobey God. However, instead of obeying God, they decided that what he said was not true (Gen. 3.4).
2)Sin always strikes at the basis for moral standards
They decided that it was not immoral to disobey God because they would "be like God". Rather than looking to God for wisdom on morality, they believed that the Tree would make them wise (3.6).
3)All sin involves from thoughts of athiesm. Sin asks the question, "Who am I" and "Who is God", although not always consciensiously.
They decided that they didn't need God. They thought they could be equal to God in knowing Good and Evil. Once they ate the fruit, thier eyes were opened to sin, and they experienced guilt (3.7). They did not know sin intimately, this is indicated by the word ya'da in Hebrew which is often used for sex (Gen. 4.1, 4.17).
4)Sin always consist of the lust of the flesh, lust of the eyes, and the boast ful pride of life (1 John 2.16)
a)Lust of the flesh--Eve saw that the tree "was good for food" (3.6).
b)Lust of the eyes--"pleasant to the eyes" (3.6)
c)boastful pride of life--"to be desired to make one wise" (3.6); "and ye shall be as Gods" (3.5); "ye shall not surely die" (3.4)
5)Sin is always foolish
Also, we see that sin is always foolish, it is the fool who has said in his heart, "There is no God" (Psalm 14.1). In Proverbs, it is the fool who sins perpetually and purposely (10.23; 12.15; 14.7, 16; 15.5; 18.2) . There was no reason for A&E to disobey God, there was no need to eat the fruit, and yet they did.Choose Life,that you might live,the life He givesHe gives you forever,Chose Life, The Way that is TrueFrom the one that chose youYour Father in HeavenChoose LifeBig Tent Revival - Chose Life (John 3:16, 14:6).
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January 3rd 2005, 04:11 PM #2
Re: Adam and Eve: Charactoristics of Sin
I would like to add, that sin also creates fear in the presence of God. If God starts to speak to you, or to deal with you, it´s no wonder that you start to feel guilty soon.
It´s always good to ask: if God would be here, would i be embarrassed of what i do?
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January 3rd 2005, 05:17 PM #3
Re: Adam and Eve: Charactoristics of Sin
That's a good point. Adam and Eve hid from God, and he had to seek them out.
Choose Life,that you might live,the life He givesHe gives you forever,Chose Life, The Way that is TrueFrom the one that chose youYour Father in HeavenChoose LifeBig Tent Revival - Chose Life (John 3:16, 14:6).
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January 21st 2005, 12:17 PM #4
Re: Adam and Eve: Charactoristics of Sin
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Hey Beast, Athihests aand non Christians are not permitted to post in Christianity. If you want to have a conversation about this topic please feel free to start a new thread in the apologetics forum. By the way, welcome to Theologyweb, I look forward to seeing your ideas. Peace, PilgrimLast edited by Pilgrim; January 21st 2005 at 12:46 PM.
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January 21st 2005, 02:43 PM #5
Re: Adam and Eve: Charactoristics of Sin
Sorry, I got here by surfing links and didn't realise it was christian forum.
I'm sure I went to Apologetics.
Anyway, 2 things
1.is there a thread on Nietzche's genealogy anywhere?
2. Can an atheist or non-christian post if they employ a christian or neutral stance (eg - asking the political implications of a certain Biblical passage without intent to criticise)?
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January 21st 2005, 03:31 PM #6
Re: Adam and Eve: Charactoristics of Sin
Not sure... but you could use the search function to find out, or start one of you own!
Originally posted by TheBeast
I believe so, yes. Though perhaps a good forum for that might be Theology 101 -it's for non debate Q and A threads.2. Can an atheist or non-christian post if they employ a christian or neutral stance (eg - asking the political implications of a certain Biblical passage without intent to criticise)?
If there is anything I’ve learned from both conservatives and liberals, it’s that we can have all the “right” answers and still be mean. And when you’re mean, it’s hard for people to listen to, much less desire, your truth.
-Shane Claiborne
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January 21st 2005, 03:45 PM #7
Re: Adam and Eve: Charactoristics of Sin
Sorry to disagree, but that may be true other places on TWeb. But special exception is needed for Christianity 201.
ITT would be fine though.Be sure to check out Striped Theology, my TheoBlog.
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