No, I haven't forgotten ...

[firstfloor]

The Truth IS there if you will genuinely seek.

I think we greatly underestimate how good an education needs to be before people drop the apparently obvious concept that the sun revolves about the earth to take up the much less obvious understanding that the earth spins in space. And it is exactly the same with many other ideas that have been taught to us by science like plate tectonics and the age of rocks and fossil fuels. They are definitely not obvious. But you would not be able to land a spacecraft on a comet unless the method of discovery that you use is providing a true description of reality. It cannot be done by guessing.

[HMS_Beagle]

In this skit I'm very well represented by the Asian "expert" and the rest of the group are those certain TWebber "science" representatives/speakers that I alluded to.

Yeah, just like you are the "expert" on meteor / asteroid impacts, star formation, the fossil record, C14 dating.

[rwatts]

...you cannot make things true just by wishing them to be so. ...

But we do have those experiments and observations Jorge:-

Experimental evolution. Testing Darwin regarding the origin of multicellularity.


"The emerging principles of regulatory evolution"

Dinosaur to bird tail transition. Testing the theory. Genetics and the fossil record.

“DeNovo Origin of Human Protein-Coding Genes” or How Some New Genes Come About.


As you showed on the one or two threads you briefly commented on, the best you had on offer was to tell me that I'm wrong and your reasons for this were nothing but rants.

[Jorge]

But we do have those experiments and observations Jorge:-

Experimental evolution. Testing Darwin regarding the origin of multicellularity.


"The emerging principles of regulatory evolution"

Dinosaur to bird tail transition. Testing the theory. Genetics and the fossil record.

“DeNovo Origin of Human Protein-Coding Genes” or How Some New Genes Come About.


As you showed on the one or two threads you briefly commented on, the best you had on offer was to tell me that I'm wrong and your reasons for this were nothing but rants.

You et al. need to watch that 7.5-minute skit a few times. Focus on the facial expressions of the Asian guy - they're not only priceless but they exactly mimic my own expressions after I've read the posts of 'certain' TWEbbers - such as some of the posts above. Beagle Boy, just to cite one example, has left me dazed and bedaffled in utter disbelief on many an occasion. It's also clear that he is getting worse with age - pray for him (not that I think it'll help).

Jorge

[rwatts]

... Focus on the facial expressions of the Asian guy - they're not only priceless but they exactly mimic my own expressions after I've read the posts ...

So, how does the fact that you pull certain facial expressions on reading those essays mean that the essays are crap? How does the fact that you pull certain facial expressions on reading various posts mean that the posts are crap?

I just read your post and made the same expression. Therefore we can both conclude that you just wrote some nonsense, right Jorge?

[klaus54]

Roland,

Bear in mind, fax is knot Jorge's forte.

K54

[rwatts]

Roland,

Bear in mind, fax is knot Jorge's forte.

K54

I continue to hope that Jorge might pray for himself one day, pray that he might be granted the ability to actually address the points posters do make to him.

Should it happen, then it would be a blessed relief for us all, and Jorge might actually learn something.

Then we could all go and take Jorge to the pub and

Naturally, because Jorge only drinks water, he would be the one on the left. I would be the one on the right.

[Jorge]

So, how does the fact that you pull certain facial expressions on reading those essays mean that the essays are crap? How does the fact that you pull certain facial expressions on reading various posts mean that the posts are crap?

I just read your post and made the same expression. Therefore we can both conclude that you just wrote some nonsense, right Jorge?

Nope! The facial expressions must be justifiable - mine are, yours aren't.
Needless to say, you will not agree with that statement so just leave it alone.
Suffice it to say that I have many years of dealing with you and others here
on TWeb. My claims of being justified are amply supported. In your case,
you're just a Faithful Religious Fanatic that thinks he's based on "pure science".

Jorge

[Jorge]

I continue to hope that Jorge might pray for himself one day, pray that he might be granted the ability to actually address the points posters do make to him.

Should it happen, then it would be a blessed relief for us all, and Jorge might actually learn something.

Then we could all go and take Jorge to the pub and

Naturally, because Jorge only drinks water, he would be the one on the left. I would be the one on the right.

I will never cease to be astonished at the projection exhibited by you people.

Jorge

[Jorge]

Roland,

Bear in mind, fax is knot Jorge's forte.

K54

Hey, Santa Klaus, shouldn't you be getting ready for ....................

Oops, my bad, I was thinking of the OTHER Santa

Jorge

[Roy]

Nope! The facial expressions must be justifiable - mine are, yours aren't.

Wow! Jorge has discovered a whole new logical fallacy, which can be summed up as 'You are wrong because I made a funny face'.

I'm going to call it Argumentum ad gurning.

I've added it to the fallacies discussion page on Wikipedia, and forwarded it to FSTDT as well.

Jorge will be famous!

Roy

[rwatts]

I will never cease to be astonished at the projection exhibited by you people.

Jorge

Several of us did discuss Gitt's first law of information here:-

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...of-Information

I believe you had a hand in all this.

You will note that, while there was some "mouthing off", we often raised what we thought were valid points against it, and explained why we thought our arguments were reasonable.

I've yet to see you criticise any of my essays beyond offering something that goes as follows (me paraphrasing) - "Roland, your essays are silly because they are nonsense. You idiots simply don't understand because you are blind to the faith of evolution."

It does not ever get beyond that.

So your accusation of "projection" is simply silly.

[lilpixieofterror]

Nope, I have not forgotten the guys and gals here at TWeb. I'm on 'vacation' from this place because I just couldn't take "it" any longer. By "it" I mean the ever-pervasive lunacy of certain TWebbers (they know who they are) who believe -- and want others to believe -- that they speak "science" when in fact they are merely promoting their Faith. And since their Faith is actually unadulterated nonsense ... there you go!

You mean that you couldn't take people proving you wrong all the time. Don't worry, I understand how damaging that must be for your ego.

Signed,
One of those 'ever-pervasive lunacy' Twebbers

[phank]

You mean that you couldn't take people proving you wrong all the time. Don't worry, I understand how damaging that must be for your ego.

Signed,

Someone in the same boat, who reacts the same way you do.

[lilpixieofterror]

Someone in the same boat, who reacts the same way you do.

More unintended irony there phank? You say stupid things about religion all the time and often are compared to an atheist version of Jorge. Keep digging though; Europe isn't far off.