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The ten commandments and being saved

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  • The ten commandments and being saved

    Must you observe to keep the 10 commandments {including the sabbath} in order to be saved to the kingdom?

  • #2
    No
    That's what
    - She

    Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
    - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

    I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
    - Stephen R. Donaldson

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    • #3
      Are ya sure Bill?

      LUKE 4 [14] And JESUS returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about.[15] And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all.[16] And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, AS HIS CUSTOM WAS, he WENT INTO THE SYNAGOGUE ON THE SABBATH DAY, and stood up for to read.

      JESUS kept the sabbath

      ACTS 17 [2] AND PAUL, AS HIS MANNER WAS, went in unto them, and three SABBATH DAYS reasoned with them out of the scriptures,[3] Opening and alleging, that Christ must needs have suffered, and risen again from the dead; and that this Jesus, whom I preach unto you, is Christ.

      PAUL kept the sabbath

      ACTS 13 [42] And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, THE GENTILES besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.[43] Now when the congregation was broken up, many of the Jews and religious proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas: who, speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the grace of God.[44] And THE NEXT SABBATH DAY CAME ALMOST THE WHOLE CITY TOGETHER TO HEAR THE WORD OF GOD.

      GENTILES come together on the sabbath to hear the WORD.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by IwreckNsow View Post
        Are ya sure Bill?.
        Positive. Paul says in Romans 7 that the knowledge of the Law was what made sin come alive in him, but grace is what made him alive in Christ. If the 10 commandments were necessary for our salvation, then those before they were given were not saved. But I think that you know what Hebrews 11 says about those who are in faith, even before the Covenant at Sinai was established.
        That's what
        - She

        Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
        - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

        I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
        - Stephen R. Donaldson

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
          No
          yeah!



          I mean... Yeah, "no"!
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #6
            Mk 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #7
              Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved.
              Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                Mk 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
                Yes Cow Poke. Jesus did make the sabbath for man. So why would man turn his back on Jesus and try to create a different day of rest. Dont make sence to me. Jesus also said He was Lord of the sabbath day

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by IwreckNsow View Post
                  Yes Cow Poke. Jesus did make the sabbath for man. So why would man turn his back on Jesus and try to create a different day of rest. Dont make sence to me. Jesus also said He was Lord of the sabbath day
                  Are you Seventh Day Adventist?


                  Securely anchored to the Rock amid every storm of trial, testing or tribulation.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by mossrose View Post
                    Are you Seventh Day Adventist?
                    Nope. Dont know what label you might put me under. Read along time ago in the bible that the whole world would be decieved, so i threw out all i heard and all i was told and started studying the bible on my own. I was very surprised at what i found.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by IwreckNsow View Post
                      Yes Cow Poke. Jesus did make the sabbath for man. So why would man turn his back on Jesus and try to create a different day of rest. Dont make sence to me. Jesus also said He was Lord of the sabbath day
                      Sense. Not sence.
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by IwreckNsow View Post
                        Nope. Dont know what label you might put me under. Read along time ago in the bible that the whole world would be decieved, so i threw out all i heard and all i was told and started studying the bible on my own. I was very surprised at what i found.
                        Ah, one of THOSE!
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by IwreckNsow View Post
                          Nope. Dont know what label you might put me under. Read along time ago in the bible that the whole world would be decieved, so i threw out all i heard and all i was told and started studying the bible on my own. I was very surprised at what i found.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by IwreckNsow View Post
                            Nope. Dont know what label you might put me under. Read along time ago in the bible that the whole world would be decieved, so i threw out all i heard and all i was told and started studying the bible on my own. I was very surprised at what i found.
                            Great. Unless you're an expert in a multitude of relevant fields(sociology, ancient Hebrew, linguistics, psychology, Koine Greek, literary criticism, history, etc.), that is a really bad idea. We're talking about a collection of documents from a different time and culture totally different from 21st century USA.
                            Last edited by Christianbookworm; 12-04-2014, 09:38 PM.
                            If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                              Sense. Not sence.
                              If yer gonna correct all my spellin.....yule be a busy man

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