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Last edited by shunyadragon; 12-18-2014, 07:13 AM.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostNo seer, as far as you are concerned I consider the ridiculous unreliable source with your combative rejection of science and an extreme religious agenda.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostReally? That is your come back?Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostAnyone who has taken serious college level courses in the Philosophy of Debating would understand.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThose who cling to ancient paradigms in black and white mythical worlds of 'Truth' in believe or die debating, cannot remotely be expected to understand the 'learning' intellectual exercise of contrary debating to explore alternative beliefs and ideas. Anyone who has taken serious college level courses in the Philosophy of Debating would understand.
Indeed, I usually begin such exercises with a clause like, "If I were to play Devil's Advocate, here..." or "Let's examine the evidence for proposition X." I would certainly not pretend that all evidence contrary to the belief which I am assuming for the exercise is simply nonexistent. In my experience, that sort of intellectual dishonesty invalidates any benefit which might be gained from the "intellectual exercise of contrary debate."
But, hey, to each his own."[Mathematics] is the revealer of every genuine truth, for it knows every hidden secret, and bears the key to every subtlety of letters; whoever, then, has the effrontery to pursue physics while neglecting mathematics should know from the start he will never make his entry through the portals of wisdom."
--Thomas Bradwardine, De Continuo (c. 1325)
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThose who cling to ancient paradigms in black and white mythical worlds of 'Truth' in believe or die debating, cannot remotely be expected to understand the 'learning' intellectual exercise of contrary debating to explore alternative beliefs and ideas. Anyone who has taken serious college level courses in the Philosophy of Debating would understand.
I doubt reputable College level courses in debate encourage deliberate dishonesty. You presented your position as being thoroughly convinced that the Psalms were Canaanite; you belittled those who disagreed, claimed that they were ignoring the evidence and so on.
Now you're back-tracking and pretending that you were just being 'a sophisticated college level intellectual explorer'.
We see what you are, Shunya. It's not the front you are trying to present. Your pride and your despising of others beliefs has tripped you up. You'd actually learn a lot more if you were more humble and more open-minded....>>> Witty remark or snarky quote of another poster goes here <<<...
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Originally posted by seer View PostOf course that would leave you out...Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by MaxVel View PostRoll out the 'three stooges'!
I doubt reputable College level courses in debate encourage deliberate dishonesty. You presented your position as being thoroughly convinced that the Psalms were Canaanite; you belittled those who disagreed, claimed that they were ignoring the evidence and so on.
Now you're back-tracking and pretending that you were just being 'a sophisticated college level intellectual explorer'.
We see what you are, Shunya. It's not the front you are trying to present. Your pride and your despising of others beliefs has tripped you up. You'd actually learn a lot more if you were more humble and more open-minded.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThose who cling to ancient paradigms in black and white mythical worlds of 'Truth' in believe or die debating, cannot remotely be expected to understand the 'learning' intellectual exercise of contrary debating to explore alternative beliefs and ideas. Anyone who has taken serious college level courses in the Philosophy of Debating would understand.Does he who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you do so by works of the law, or by hearing with faith? -Galatians 3:5
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Originally posted by Pentecost View PostIn other words play devil's advocate, no need to act like it's more than that. But were you at any point making that clear? No one thinks you did, and so it appears that you are back pedaling and are trying to make an excuse and no one is accepting a polite fiction.βλέπομεν γὰρ ἄρτι δι᾿ ἐσόπτρου ἐν αἰνίγματι, τότε δὲ πρόσωπον πρὸς πρόσωπον·
ἄρτι γινώσκω ἐκ μέρους, τότε δὲ ἐπιγνώσομαι καθὼς καὶ ἐπεγνώσθην.אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThose who cling to ancient paradigms in black and white mythical worlds of 'Truth' in believe or die debating, cannot remotely be expected to understand the 'learning' intellectual exercise of contrary debating to explore alternative beliefs and ideas. Anyone who has taken serious college level courses in the Philosophy of Debating would understand.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThose who cling to ancient paradigms in black and white mythical worlds of 'Truth' in believe or die debating, cannot remotely be expected to understand the 'learning' intellectual exercise of contrary debating to explore alternative beliefs and ideas. Anyone who has taken serious college level courses in the Philosophy of Debating would understand.
You should show more respect for others, and exercise more honesty in your posts....>>> Witty remark or snarky quote of another poster goes here <<<...
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Originally posted by MaxVel View PostYou're embarrassing, Shunya. You're doing just what you often accuse others of doing: not offering a substantive response; and your pals the 'Three Stooges', Bob, Duck and Weave.
You should show more respect for others, and exercise more honesty in your posts.
Three stooges -MaxVel, Jorge and seerGlendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThose who cling to ancient paradigms in black and white mythical worlds of 'Truth' in believe or die debating, cannot remotely be expected to understand the 'learning' intellectual exercise of contrary debating to explore alternative beliefs and ideas. Anyone who has taken serious college level courses in the Philosophy of Debating would understand.
Three stooges -MaxVel, Jorge and seer
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThose who cling to ancient paradigms in black and white mythical worlds of 'Truth' in believe or die debating, cannot remotely be expected to understand the 'learning' intellectual exercise of contrary debating to explore alternative beliefs and ideas. Anyone who has taken serious college level courses in the Philosophy of Debating would understand.
Three stooges -MaxVel, Jorge and seer
It's actually a sign that you've goofed when you're reduced to such lack of substance.
Please don't forget to add Adrift, Cerebrum123, Boxing Pythagoras and Pancreasman to your 'stooges' list.......>>> Witty remark or snarky quote of another poster goes here <<<...
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