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The only true God (John 17:3)

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  • The only true God (John 17:3)

    John 17:3
    And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent (John 17:3, KJV).

    1. The Jehovah's Witnesses believe when the Lord Jesus said "the only true God" in reference to the Father this proves that the Lord Jesus is not God.
    http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/trinity/http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/...fm?sectionID=8
    d. Vine: John 7:28; 17:3; 1 Thess. 1:9; Rev. 6:10; these declare that God fulfils the meaning of His Name, He is "very God," in distinction from all other gods, false gods (Vine's Expository Dictionary of Old and New Testament Words, True, page 1170).
    e. NIDOTTE - Asa demonstrated unquestionable religious zeal, even to the point of removing his own (grand)mother (cf. 1 Kgs 15:2, 10) Maacah from her place (15:3 ) - no easy feat, to be sure, given the idolatrous tendencies his father had (15:3) (NIDOTTE 4:413, Asa, Daniel Schibler).

    3. The same Greek word for "only" (monos) that is applied to the Father in John 17:3 is used in Romans 16:27 and Revelation 15:4.
    a. To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen. (Romans 16:27)
    The fact that the Lord Jesus shares the same wisdom as what "only" God possesses (omniscience) proves that the Lord Jesus is God.
    See Acts 1:24-25; Ephesians 4:10; 1 Peter 2:25 and Revelation 5:6, 12 in http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...ience-of-Jesus
    And also see http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...ce%29%E2%80%8F
    Jesus as the heart-knower of all (καρδιογνώστης = omniscience)‏
    b. Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest. (Revelation 15:4)
    The fact that the Lord Jesus shares the same holiness as what "only" God possesses proves that the Lord Jesus is God.
    See Peter: The Worship of the Lord Jesus
    http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...the-Lord-Jesus
    Last edited by foudroyant; 01-29-2014, 03:24 PM.

  • #2
    I agree!

    (but you're still flooding the JW forum )
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • #3
      Hear ya on that.
      I'll be taking some time off for awhile.
      Have to catch up on a few things.

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      • #4
        Several things you miss in your diatribe:

        1 All trinitarians (at least those that subscribe to the ecumenical creeds (ie: the Nicene Creed of 325 and/or the Constantinople Creed of 381) all affirm that there is one God = the Father (ie: "I (we)believe in one God the Father...". In acclamation the Father alone is the only true God, because only he is proved to have kept his promises in sending the Son (However, in the Gospel of John there is a consistent message of equivalency eg; John 1:1, John 3, 12:14, 14:9, 17:3).

        2. The creeds trinitarian creeds distinguish the Son (Jesus Christ) as our Lord (ie:owner/master) who is God from God, true God from true God, hommousius. That is: unlike the Father, the Son is not autotheos (God of himself). The Son's participation in the Godhead is derivitive. As Ratzinger (former pope Benedict) wrote (when he was Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) during the reconciliation talks between the eastern and western churches "the Father is the source and cause of the Son".

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        • #5
          From your post:
          The Son's participation in the Godhead is derivative.
          and
          "the Father is the source and cause of the Son".
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          Does that mean the Son was created?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by foudroyant View Post
            From your post:
            The Son's participation in the Godhead is derivative.
            and
            "the Father is the source and cause of the Son".
            ----------
            Does that mean the Son was created?
            Last edited by apostoli; 01-31-2014, 09:27 AM.

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