Jesus is Returning Sooner than You Think!!

[MichaelCadry]

Susan, you never ceased gabbing to me or Barley incessantly until I asked you some questions that you could not have answers to. So now, this is your big chance. Instead you back up and say you don't have to explain yourself about those few questions. What happened?? Maybe you have a friend who has been visited by the Holy Spirit whom you could ask so you would know what to say here. All of a sudden you don't have to explain or justify yourself to myself and Barley because of the questions involved. Sure you don't have to justify or explain anything, cause you have nothing to justify nor explain. How CONVENIENT!!

MichaeC

[barley]

Tell that to people living in the Congo:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/23/wo...a/23congo.html

Wrath is described in the Revelation, not now.



It seems to me that Paul is talking about a peace which does not depend on the circumstances, so I'm not sure what it would have to do with the question of whether or not Christians will be raptured.



And since the Greek word for 'meeting' referred to people going out to meet someone it makes perfect sense that these two things would go together.



No offence, but I think what you are trusting is your own personal interpretation.

Smaneck,

You would like for me to tell that to the people living in the Congo?

Tell that to people living in the Congo:

Well, all they have to do is read Romans 5:9

Romans 5:9

"Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him."

and they will realize that they are not in the wrath because they have been delivered from it.

Of course, assuming that they have done Romans 10:9-10. When they do that then they are saved from wrath as well as other things.

9 " That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

10For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."

I do not generally do links, if you want me to know what going in the Congo, you can type it up.

God word makes it plain that we are delivered from wrath. That settles it. I believe it.

Wrath is described in the Revelation, not now.

That is correct.

It seems to me that Paul is talking about a peace which does not depend on the circumstances, so I'm not sure what it would have to do with the question of whether or not Christians will be raptured.

Rapture is not a word found in the scriptures describing the return of Christ for us as described in I Thessalonians 4:13-18, so I do not use it to describe something that God makes plain for us.

Yes, Paul does talk about that, but more importantly, in Romans 5:1 we have peace with God for we are justified.

Romans 5:1

1 "Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:"

Since God knows what he is talking about the return for us as described in I Thessalonians 4:13-18 is different than the return described in the book of Revelation.

For in Revelation he touches down. Revelation 14:1

1And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

In I Thessalonians 4:17, he does not.

17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Since God found it fit to make that distinction, (among others), I will believe what is written and not second guess God.

barley

[barley]

Dear Barley,

Do not bother to communicate with Susan Smaneck for your own sake. She is a venomous, confusing snake of Delilah and twists words around constantly to suit her needs and make herself sound good. Believe me, I've been there. Satan is her guide, and she is the author of confusion, though she does it her in own god's name. All I can say is, beware!! All she is skilled upon is her supposed version of the Old Testament, which is not the King James' version, and all of her words are based upon what is in her Tanukh. Again this is only my advice to you. Stick with what your Pastor taught you instead and be a smart Christian instead.

God's Best,
MichaelC

Thank you for your concern.

I do not know much about her.

If your assessment is true, well, Saul of Tarsus was not a banana cream pie either for a while.

However, as an ambassador for Christ, when given the opportunity, I rather enjoy teaching scriptures.

The love of God, not fear is my motivation.

As is yours, I am sure.

barley

[smaneck]

I only asked if you have been visited by the Holy Spirit, and in your last post, you said you'd felt a presence and left it at that.

No, you added how do I know it isn't the devil I experienced. That's offensive, to say the least.

I will tell you in my next reply how it feels to have the Holy Spirit visit you and what you undergo.

And why would I believe what you say about it?

I don't often talk about what I experienced because I can't explain it. Have you ever heard of the peace which surpasses understanding?

[MichaelCadry]

Susan, you never cease to amaze me. The peace which surpasses understanding. Now that's a first, or second at best.

When the Holy Spirit visits you, you have a lightning-quick in-rushing of spirit into your soul, and mind and heart. And it fills you with exuberance, great joy and happiness, and you know it's from God. And the Holy Spirit teaches you in a matter of seconds what it usually takes an hour to describe. It is a sheer miracle. Now sometimes, when the Holy Spirit visits you, you speak in tongues, in other words, in a language only heaven knows about, and you blurt out what It says. Then someone near you who also gets filled with the Holy Spirit, usually in a church setting, blurts out in English what it means. Nevertheless, you feel a great joy and an incredible urge to praise God for such a miracle and blessing given you and you marvel about it. You never forget it or the experiencing of it. It illuminates your whole soul and has a extreme very strong inner tingling sensation about it.

Now that being said, ALL Christians know that the devil has a fake version of the same thing and you feel a twinge followed by lies that are quite discernable. It is definitely no match for what the real version is and is quite different indeed.

There, now you know. Be certain to not use this is any sneaky way for blasphemy of the Holy Ghost is totally unforgiveable by God. The Holy Spirit is very endearing to Him, and I don't blame Him. It is the best gift He could ever give us. Oh, that it would happen even more often to me. It has visited me at least a half a dozen times, and I've learned very much because of it. Okay,,,beware.

Praise the Bounty that His Good Heart Gives Us,

MichaelC

[smaneck]

When the Holy Spirit visits you, you have a lightning-quick in-rushing of spirit into your soul, and mind and heart.

Says who and how is this superior than a peace which surpasses understanding?

Be certain to not use this is any sneaky way for blasphemy of the Holy Ghost is totally unforgiveable by God.

Personally, that is what you have come very close to doing. When Jesus accuses the hypocrites of sinning against the Holy Spirit it is because they lost the capacity to discern good from evil. The good has nothing to do with flashes of lightening, etc. The Holy Spirit is what makes good deeds possible.

[MichaelCadry]

Susan, you've managed to do it again. Yes, I've heard of the peace which surpasses understanding because you've mentioned it incessantly. Sounds pretty self-explanatory. And why would I believe you or anything you have to say about it?? I mean, that is how you are treating me. I share one of the most important experiences in my life and you diss me. What else is new. You've never been visited by the Holy Spirit and you are trying to tell me about Him??? You are quite deft. You don't know Him and I doubt you ever will during this lifetime. The first time the Holy Spirit visited me, He told me about the lyrics to the song Stairway to Heaven by Led Zeppelin. Listen to all the words to it sometime. He told me about the whole song within the course of hearing a few words of the song. The second time He visited me, I won't tell you why cause you won't believe me anyway. You keep holding on to that peace which surpasses understanding and see if it gets you anywhere towards Heaven or not. It cannot compare even slightly with the Holy Spirit. I don't think I even want to talk with you anymore because you are too irreverent. Stick with your uncomparable and distorted version of the Old Testament, and I'll stick with my King James version. Enjoy the ride and see where it takes you.

MC

[smaneck]

Susan, you've managed to do it again. Yes, I've heard of the peace which surpasses understanding because you've mentioned it incessantly. Sounds pretty self-explanatory. And why would I believe you or anything you have to say about it??

Frankly, I don't care whether you believe me or not.

I mean, that is how you are treating me.

I have done nothing to you, but you have accused me of being in league with the devil!

I share one of the most important experiences in my life and you diss me.

No, I did not. What I dissed was your assertion that *my* experience of the Holy Spirit has to take the same form as yours. You have no right to say that.

You've never been visited by the Holy Spirit and you are trying to tell me about Him???

And you just accused me of dissing your experiences? Talk about hypocrisy!

, He told me about the lyrics to the song Stairway to Heaven by Led Zeppelin. Listen to all the words to it sometime.

I used to listen to it every night before I went to bed.

You keep holding on to that peace which surpasses understanding and see if it gets you anywhere towards Heaven or not. It cannot compare even slightly with the Holy Spirit. I don't think I even want to talk with you anymore because you are too irreverent. Stick with your uncomparable and distorted version of the Old Testament, and I'll stick with my King James version.

While you're sticking to your KJV, why don't you open it up and read Philippians 4:7.

[MichaelCadry]

I am very aware of Philippians 4:7. But your experience with the Holy Spirit, I question, which is being careful not to say anything being aware of what blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is and it should not be taken lightly. So what I'd like to say, I will keep to myself right now, despite though how much I would like to say it. Every time the Holy Spirit visited me there was an exhirating experience and you could certainly feel it's presence and the difference it made.

If you are certain that the Holy Spirit actually visited you, then so be it. It doesn't sound like the Holy Ghost I know, when He visited me each time, and it has happened to me at least 7 times in my life since I was 18. Do you notice how bad this world is, especially what we are going through in the U.S., with the great heat wave now, and the worst ever wildfire in Phoenix, and the parts of the U.S. that are having it?? And the great earthquake in Japan, and the tsuami, and their nuclear meltdown. I could go on and on. Why do people believe in Mother Nature when it is actually the Lord doing all of these things so that people will look up to Him in their hours of need and start believing and worshipping Him?? What does it tell us all except that Christ's Return is on the brink and edge of time. If you are sure that the Holy Spirit has visited you, then fine. But Susan, if you are not sure, than pray to God non-stop the He will send Him to you. In Jesus' Name Always for Eternity,

MC

[MichaelCadry]

It is best to be aware of the books of Daniel and also Revelation, and you should all immerse yourselves in knowing those books right now for they will be very important in the days to come. Also those verses written of what time the latter days would be like. There are many things that I've been privy of for those meek who shall inherit the earth and those who shall rise with Christ on His Day!! Just be aware that at night when you are sleeping or during the time that you are awake, He can return. Don't go back to get anything, including clothes or cigarettes. Those who go to heaven, who lead many to righteous and be as the stars forever and ever!! And those that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament (heaven). Pillars in God's Temple, which is heaven, means like stars which hold up heaven.

There is so much that I can't really share with you, for they are hidden sentences, but I will share a secret. The goat of Grecia who came without his feet touching the ground is to represent Cat Stevens and the work he did on earth. He is Greek and loves God much. He was trying to get people to watch his concerts without drugs. Thus came he against the kings of Medea and Persia where they smoked alot in their bongs. Though his brother got to him to choose Islam over Christianity is a shame. I was trying to get him to embrace Christianity where he belongs. Hopefully, God has a Plan for all of this. Chat more later. Much to do.

In the name of Our Heavenly Father and His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit,

AMEN
mc


That's all for now. Thanks.

[MichaelCadry]

It says not to go to bed if you have ought against a brethren. JESUS said this. So peace be to you and Let the Holy Spirit come upon you if it is God's Will, so you will know the very difference. I would not put all of my eggs in a basket and know that feeling the real Holy Spirit is way different than a disciples' word and base my whole religion on what that disciple said. I would base my religion instead upon what Jesus said and did. I know you want to say a disciple's word is just fine, but know that Philip did not know more than Jesus did.

How do you make those quote things work???

Michael C

[smaneck]

I know you want to say a disciple's word is just fine, but know that Philip did not know more than Jesus did.

Dear Michael,

Please tell me you are not under the mis-impressionism that Philip wrote Philippians? Paul wrote it! It is called Philippians because it was addressed to the church at Philippi. I might also point out that your views of the Holy Spirit are not based on anything Christ said but on what Paul wrote in his letter to the Corinthians.

How do you make those quote things work???

You push the quote button instead of just the reply button. If you don't want to quote the whole thing there is a quotation bubble at the top of your reply. What you do is highlight the part you want to quote and and then click on that qoute bubble.

warmest, Susan

[MichaelCadry]

Please tell me you are not under the mis-impressionism that Philip wrote Philippians? Paul wrote it! It is called Philippians because it was addressed to the church at Philippi. I might also point out that your views of the Holy Spirit are not based on anything Christ said but on what Paul wrote in his letter to the Corinthians

Dear Susan, thanks so much for your help on the quote button. I hope this works. No, my views are not that Philip wrote his own scripture and do not base that on my misimpression, but that Paul was delivering certain writings to many churches, Philippia being one church dedicated to Philip. But I am including the church of the Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Thessolonians, etc. But Paul was a disciple of Christ in the way I view it and took over the vacant spot of Judas Iscariot. And you must remember Stephen, the first martyr of Jesus. Do you know Cat Stevens real name is Steven Georgiou. He just changed it because there are so many Georgious in London and Greece.

My views about the Holy Spirit are NOT based on anything Paul said, nor what Paul experienced out on the road when he was first visited by Jesus, but what Jesus said. Jesus said, God would send The Comforter, after He left and before His final ascension into Heaven. Anyway, what most I base it on is what actually happened to me. When the Holy Spirit visits you, you are definitely aware of Who is visiting you and that IT IS the Holy Spirit. There is no question of it at the time and there is nothing like it in the world or in heaven, that I know of. It is tremendous and astonishing, and so wonderful that such an experience could exist, but should I be surprised, since it comes from God Himself, Who is Perfect, as Jesus said He was. Jesus even said He himself was not perfect, but the Father in Heaven is perfect. But I do feel so immensely blessed that He would send the Holy Ghost to me and so often.

Anyway, I am working on the 4th edition of my book. It takes alot of work, and I don't get to chat here as often as I'd like. But I do try to find time to keep in touch with you and I am sorry when I get testy, to say the least, but I stand by everything I've said, but I won't keep going into it. Got to run for now. You'd probably be smart to get a copy of my book and read it. It says alot of what has happened to me that you are not aware of yet. Best I close for now and thank you again.

May God Be With You and Fill You With the Holy Ghost,

MichaelC

[MichaelCadry]

Yippee, Susan. I just did it. So cool!

Don't go to sleep if you are at odds with your brethren (including sisters). First make peace with them, and then go to sleep.

Love,

MichaelC

[smaneck]

Dear Susan, thanks so much for your help on the quote button. I hope this works.

Good job.

No, my views are not that Philip wrote his own scripture and do not base that on my misimpression, but that Paul was delivering certain writings to many churches, Philippia being one church dedicated to Philip.

O my, my, my. The church gets its name from the city of Philipi which is located in Macedonia and named after King Philip (Alexander the Great's father) not the apostle Philip.

But Paul was a disciple of Christ in the way I view it and took over the vacant spot of Judas Iscariot.

Not according to Acts of the Apostles:

1:24 And they prayed, and said, Thou, Lord, which knowest the hearts of all men, shew whether of these two thou hast chosen, 1:25 That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.

1:26 And they gave forth their lots; and the lot fell upon Matthias; and he was numbered with the eleven apostles.

No offense, Michael, but if you are really going to try and be one of these two witnesses you really need to learn more about the Bible than you currently know.

> Do you know Cat Stevens real name is Steven Georgiou.

I thought it was Yusuf Islam. ;-}

My views about the Holy Spirit are NOT based on anything Paul said, nor what Paul experienced out on the road when he was first visited by Jesus, but what Jesus said. Jesus said, God would send The Comforter, after He left and before His final ascension into Heaven.

Hmmm. The way I described my experience of the Holy Spirit seems more like 'comfort' than what you described.

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When the Holy Spirit visits you, you are definitely aware of Who is visiting you and that IT IS the Holy Spirit. There is no question of it at the time and there is nothing like it in the world or in heaven, that I know of. It is tremendous and astonishing, and so wonderful that such an experience could exist, but should I be surprised, since it comes from God Himself, Who is Perfect

I don't have any doubts about what I experienced.