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Uhm, niceness?
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Sometimes the mere words we pick, even when well meaning can hurt. It is my understanding, the mere words can at times only communicate as little as 3% of what is meant by them.. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV
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Originally posted by Pentecost View PostThe usual definition of "pleasant; or agreeable" suits well, or a sort of polite kindness was how I was meaning it, but it works just as well if we just used it as a synonym for "kindness" instead. As KG pointed out Jesus was not always nice and as I said Christianity does not mean necessarily being good. Love, patience, kindness, goodness, are all things that can be perceived as nice. But love requires the truth, patience must have a reason, good once again as I said does not equal nice. Kind... Kind of does mean nice.
Are we even over emphasizing it?
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When the debate side of the site gets to be too much, I recommend spending time in the fellowship areas, like the lobby, amphitheater, rec room, poop deck, the rolling pin, etc. I spend most of my time there getting to know people and make friends. Everyone is welcome and they are for entertainment and goofing around rather than debate and fighting. Once you make friends with someone, it is much harder to be uncivil to them in the debate areas.
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Originally posted by Pentecost View PostNow, I know good=/=nice and nice=/=Christian but not naming names there is a startling large segment of Christians on this site (I've rarely met Christians in real life I have this issue with) who apparently don't give the benefit of the doubt to someone or I'll agree with someone's sentiment, but the words they use make me question where the love is. Still not naming names but do others agree to this general sentiment? Or am I a proverbial wuss? :P
I wouldn't think it's because we're a theology site, but if it because of that is it because it is a subject that attracts more arrogant people?
Again, I really am not asking for names that would be very inappropriate; the question basically boils down to is "niceness" a component of love? Are we under doing it? Are we even over emphasizing it?
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostIt was a long time ago (and, I believe, in more than one thread). Basically he was pointing out what has been pointed out many times before about the use of insult rhetoric. Holding and a couple other Tekton regulars got into it with him. Called him a whiner or baby or something like that. I don't remember the details cept that it was pretty nasty. I think he was going by the handle Theonomy at the time.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostHuh. I don't recall that. I recall others complaining about it (and I sometimes think it goes too far), but not Glenn.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostWhen the debate side of the site gets to be too much, I recommend spending time in the fellowship areas, like the lobby, amphitheater, rec room, poop deck, the rolling pin, etc. I spend most of my time there getting to know people and make friends. Everyone is welcome and they are for entertainment and goofing around rather than debate and fighting. Once you make friends with someone, it is much harder to be uncivil to them in the debate areas.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostSays YOU, ya big dumb poppiehead.
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Originally posted by pancreasman View PostWhich is actually at least some of the level of 'debating' we get around here. I could stand put downs in the style of Oscar Wilde or Groucho Marx, but 'harsh medicine' that is only childish malice is no debate tactic, it's an illustration of character.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostExactly -- and I DO hope that others realize I was just playing -- mocking that meme -- cause Sparko is one of my best buddies --- I HAVE to love Rogue, cause he's my brother and Mom insisted before she passed that I do that, and I reasonably tolerate you, Pman, cause I like the Australian accent.
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Originally posted by Pentecost View PostNow, I know good=/=nice and nice=/=Christian but not naming names there is a startling large segment of Christians on this site (I've rarely met Christians in real life I have this issue with) who apparently don't give the benefit of the doubt to someone or I'll agree with someone's sentiment, but the words they use make me question where the love is. Still not naming names but do others agree to this general sentiment? Or am I a proverbial wuss? :P
Originally posted by Pentecost View PostI wouldn't think it's because we're a theology site, but if it because of that is it because it is a subject that attracts more arrogant people?
Originally posted by Pentecost View PostAgain, I really am not asking for names that would be very inappropriate; the question basically boils down to is "niceness" a component of love? Are we under doing it? Are we even over emphasizing it?"For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6
"Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom
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Originally posted by pancreasman View PostLOL, stop worrying about me, I know a joke when I see one.
I'm not completely insane, only a liberal. (Insert punchline here).The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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He is so "others." Why are you excluding him? That is non nice.Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by Jedidiah View PostHe is so "others." Why are you excluding him? That is non nice.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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