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World Religions is a theist only type place, but that does not exclude certain religionists who practice non-theistic faiths ala Buddhism. If you are not sure, ask a moderator.
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Papa Francis prays facing Mecca in mosque
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here read this dialogue from CBS news and see another take on it. However this is not an opportunity for debate just to read from primary news:
Originally posted by cbsnewsThe Orthodox make up barely one percent of the population of Turkey, and feel increasingly under pressure in a country that is 98 percent Muslim.
The first event of the day, a visit to the 17-century Sultan Ahmet mosque (famously known as the Blue Mosque), served to undercut some of the pressure the Pope is feeling from his hosts who are concerned over what they see as growing "Islamophobic paranoia" in the West.
Turkish religious officials have expressed concern at the increase in attacks on mosques in Europe.
CBS correspondent Allen Pizzey reports a theme of the trip is religious freedom, which the Pope defined as "an eloquent sign of peace."
Francis prayed alongside Rahmi Yaran, the Grand Mufti of Istanbul, who had his palms turned toward the sky in a Muslim prayer.
"May God accept it," Yaran told the pope at the conclusion of a poignant moment of Christian-Muslim understanding.A happy family is but an earlier heaven.
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Um, aren't mosques oriented toward Mecca?"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Paprika View PostI don't recall making this thread here. Did you move it, perchance?That's what
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Is your objection to inter-religious dialogue and worship? Would you also object to Jews and Christians praying the Our Father together? Would you also object to Jews and Muslims praying together, assuming they agreed upon a prayer?אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃
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Basically it is most likely a personal effort to show respect and acknowledge other religions 'diplomatically,' and does not change nor reflect the underlying Doctrine and Dogma of the Roman Church. This change in improving PR and diplomacy outside the Roman Church is mainly a product of the Vatican II.
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Originally posted by robrecht View PostIs your objection to inter-religious dialogue or worship? Would you also object to Jews and Christians praying the Our Father together? Would you also object to Jews and Muslims praying together, assuming they agreed upon a prayer?
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Originally posted by robrecht View PostIs your objection to inter-religious dialogue and worship?
I do see, however, some problems with certain inter-religious worship practices.
Would you also object to Jews and Christians praying the Our Father together?
Would you also object to Jews and Muslims praying together, assuming they agreed upon a prayer?
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostWhen I read the title at first, I was a bit surprised. Purposefully praying towards Mecca as part of inter-religious dialogue could easily be taken as affirmation of (or maybe even submission to) Islam...it makes sense that if you're in a mosque you're probably going to be oriented towards Mecca. So its not like he looked for the direction of Mecca and intentionally turned that way in a ritualistic sense.
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Originally posted by Paprika View PostNo.
I do see, however, some problems with certain inter-religious worship practices.
I don't see any reason in general to object, though in specific situations it may not be a good thing.
Why should I? I don't belong to either group, after all.אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostWhen I read the title at first, I was a bit surprised. Purposefully praying towards Mecca as part of inter-religious dialogue could easily be taken as affirmation of (or maybe even submission to) Islam. That might not be a big deal if you're just Joe Average, but when we're talking the pope, the leader of the largest Christian community in the world, that's pretty "yikes!" type stuff. But then, after reading the article, and Catholicity and Teal's posts, yeah, it makes sense that if you're in a mosque you're probably going to be oriented towards Mecca. So its not like he looked for the direction of Mecca and intentionally turned that way in a ritualistic sense. That puts a bit of a different spin on things as far I'm concerned.אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃
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Originally posted by Paprika View PostHow does it make a difference? Are you suggesting that the Pope had no idea that he would be praying facing Mecca? If not, then he would be purposefully praying in that direction.
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