Evolution and science compared to religious belief

[pancreasman]

what if there was proof ,
what if you had proof that water was created from nothing......or hydrogen and oxygen atoms that did not exist popped into existance and afterwards, dissappeared into non existance,

then what?

IOW, what if Bible God left His mess, and said, "I want to make sure every human knows I did this"

how would that affect you

If there was physical evidence of a grand scale miracle, then I would be more disposed to believe other stuff the Bible says.

[jordanriver]

If there was physical evidence of a grand scale miracle, then I would be more disposed to believe other stuff the Bible says.

ok, why not Just have God in the sky , and every time you looked He was looking right at you,

and to everybody He appeared to be looking right at them.

[phank]

you dont need a talking snake to start a cult of the talking snake.

look, as far as atheists are concerned, you dont even need a God to start any religion

And indeed, religions have been started and still thrive without gods. But statistically, it helps to have at least one god in any religion you start.

[phank]

If there was physical evidence of a grand scale miracle, then I would be more disposed to believe other stuff the Bible says.

Hopefully, you'd not abandon your skepticism. Jeanne Dixon became famous for predicting JFK's assassination, but if you look at her record over the rest of the thousands of predictions, she did not better than one would expect from any informed person. Apprently she got lucky, not so much in guessing one right, but in being in position to leverage it.

So I would hope you wouldn't be more disposed to believe the other stuff, but rather less disposed to dismiss it out of hand. You could end up like the early geologists, who went out to gather evidence of Noah's Flood. And at first they found quite a bit of evidence that large quantities of water had shoved things around. Eventually, enough such evidence was compiled to learn about ice ages.

[pancreasman]

ok, why not Just have God in the sky , and every time you looked He was looking right at you,

and to everybody He appeared to be looking right at them.

Good question. Why not?

[jordanriver]

Good question. Why not?

and yours was a better question.

well, if its ok with you, its ok with me.

........isn't that what ~The Christian~ wants ?

"The Return of Christ" ...the Son of God, Christ the Creator, Ruling the Earth

[Roy]

ok, why not Just have God in the sky , and every time you looked He was looking right at you,

and to everybody He appeared to be looking right at them.

And let's have the God in the sky being Thoth, in the form of an ibis, with the serpent Apep coiled around his neck.

How would that affect you?

Roy

[klaus54]

When I wrote “separate”, I was thinking about something Frank Schaeffer once said about carrying on the tradition of the Greek Orthodox Church until Christ comes. Jews and Muslims are also waiting for something. While there is always personal development, the church itself is static or separate from progress being made elsewhere because the revelation of God, in their terms, has ended.

Gotcha...

K54

[jordanriver]

And let's have the God in the sky being Thoth, in the form of an ibis, with the serpent Apep coiled around his neck.

How would that affect you?

Roy

you must be projecting atheist attributes.

I am a born again Christian, I am not one who "lacks belief"

I will never never never have to worry about Thoth or any other god than Bible God.

Born Agains are caused
.. to know the deal

We know Scripture is Direct From God , so we have confidence that there is

no other gods Isaiah 43

no other gods Isaiah 44

no other gods Isaiah 45

no other gods, no other salvation New Testament

.........I know..........

[pancreasman]

you must be projecting atheist attributes.

I am a born again Christian, I am not one who "lacks belief"

I will never never never have to worry about Thoth or any other god than Bible God.

Born Agains are caused to know the deal

We know Scripture is Direct From God , so we have confidence that there is

no other gods Isaiah 43

no other gods Isaiah 44

no other gods Isaiah 45

no other gods, no other salvation New Testament

.........I know..........

Ah, so evidence means nothing to you. Just a vague sort of 'knowing'.

[jordanriver]

Ah, so evidence means nothing to you. Just a vague sort of 'knowing'.

what?
you have evidence of other gods?

[pancreasman]

what?
you have evidence of other gods?

I have no concrete evidence of any Gods at all. This doesn't mean they don't exist. But if someone makes particular claims of a God acting in the physical universe in a way that ought to 'leave a mark' and no signs of that mark exist, it is reasonable to conclude that their claim is most likely wrong.

[jordanriver]

I have no concrete evidence of any Gods at all. This doesn't mean they don't exist. But if someone makes particular claims of a God acting in the physical universe in a way that ought to 'leave a mark' and no signs of that mark exist, it is reasonable to conclude that their claim is most likely wrong.

yes, you are justified.

I (speaking only for myself and my interpretation of Scripture, and NOT speaking for any other Christian), cannot think of any reason you should believe what it says in The Bible

[pancreasman]

yes, you are justified.

I (speaking only for myself and my interpretation of Scripture, and NOT speaking for any other Christian), cannot think of any reason you should believe what it says in The Bible

That's an interesting thing to say. Many Christians at this point cite Romans and say I 'really' know God exists and I am either lying or deluded. I thank you for not going in that direction.

[Roy]

And let's have the God in the sky being Thoth, in the form of an ibis, with the serpent Apep coiled around his neck.

How would that affect you?

you must be projecting atheist attributes.

No, just exposing you (again) as a cowardly hypocrite.

You're constantly asking others how they would react if your religion was proven correct, but you always evade similar questions asked of you.

Roy