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But remember, always play by the rules: here
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Originally posted by Buzzword View PostGod does not differentiate between male and female when He calls us to live a Christ-like life."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostActually He does. Though like most Christians you seem to think modern egalitarian gender roles, of which you will find no trace of in the Bible, are the prescription.
NO.
He commands ALL to love God and love their neighbor, for this sums up the Law (including the laws that made women chattel for breeding) and the prophets.
Egalitarian gender roles are not mentioned in the Bible because the MEN who wrote everything included therein had no concept of gender equality.
It wasn't until human society had sufficiently developed for women to no longer be seen as PROPERTY that they began to fight for equal treatment under the law and under their own roofs.
But you already know this.
So in bringing it up, you are either advocating a return to barbarism, which given your choice of signature would not truly surprise me, or are trolling.
Galatians 3:28
"There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."
If we truly believe this statement to be true, we should not look for someone to tell us how to be better "Christian men," but how to better follow Christ.Seeing Gray in a World of Black and White
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Originally posted by Buzzword View PostDoes Christ command "Men, love the Lord your God and love your neighbor as yourself; women, stay in the kitchen."?
NO.
He commands ALL to love God and love their neighbor, for this sums up the Law (including the laws that made women chattel for breeding) and the prophets.
Egalitarian gender roles are not mentioned in the Bible because the MEN who wrote everything included therein had no concept of gender equality.
It wasn't until human society had sufficiently developed for women to no longer be seen as PROPERTY that they began to fight for equal treatment under the law and under their own roofs.
But you already know this.
So in bringing it up, you are either advocating a return to barbarism, which given your choice of signature would not truly surprise me, or are trolling.
Galatians 3:28
"There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."
If we truly believe this statement to be true, we should not look for someone to tell us how to be better "Christian men," but how to better follow Christ.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Buzzword View PostAdventures in Missing the PointThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Buzzword View PostDoes Christ command "Men, love the Lord your God and love your neighbor as yourself; women, stay in the kitchen."?
NO.
He commands ALL to love God and love their neighbor, for this sums up the Law (including the laws that made women chattel for breeding) and the prophets.
Egalitarian gender roles are not mentioned in the Bible because the MEN who wrote everything included therein had no concept of gender equality.
It wasn't until human society had sufficiently developed for women to no longer be seen as PROPERTY that they began to fight for equal treatment under the law and under their own roofs.
But you already know this.
So in bringing it up, you are either advocating a return to barbarism, which given your choice of signature would not truly surprise me, or are trolling.
Galatians 3:28
"There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."
If we truly believe this statement to be true, we should not look for someone to tell us how to be better "Christian men," but how to better follow Christ."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI think you're being overly literal here --- men and women are different - no doubt about it.
That men and women are different (which is a generalization and thus doesn't do much for the conversation besides take up space) doesn't change Paul's statement in Galatians.
Neither does it change Peter's statement in Acts that "God is no respecter of persons".
Also, you didn't answer my question.
Originally posted by BuzzwordDo we really believe the church platitude that "God doesn't call the qualified, He qualifies the called"?
If so, who are we to say that He cannot or will not call a woman to lead a congregation?Seeing Gray in a World of Black and White
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Originally posted by Buzzword View PostYet he instructed the Galatians that there is no male or female, for all are one in Christ.
If all are one, then how do you justify an arbitrary assignation of roles based on gender?"As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Buzzword View PostThat men and women are different (which is a generalization and thus doesn't do much for the conversation besides take up space) doesn't change Paul's statement in Galatians.I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.
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Men and women are also given different commands with regards to marriage. Buzzword thinks that the only way you can love women is if you assign the same (and by the same I mean "male", I've yet to meet an egalitarian who respects the traditional work done by women) roles to everybody. Nothing says "I love women" like trying to strip them of every ounce of femininity that isn't already carved in their flesh. And with modern surgery it's probably not long until even the latter may become halal."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Buzzword View PostSo in bringing it up, you are either advocating a return to barbarism, which given your choice of signature would not truly surprise me, or are trolling.
But you already know this.
Egalitarian gender roles are not mentioned in the Bible because the MEN who wrote everything included therein had no concept of gender equality.
Do we really believe the church platitude that "God doesn't call the qualified, He qualifies the called"?
If so, who are we to say that He cannot or will not call a woman to lead a congregation?
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Originally posted by Buzzword View PostAlso, you didn't answer my question.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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