XMM's pick 5/30 ~ Chance and EDF?!?!?
Originally posted by chance in the thread Wouldn't Molinism....
04-22-2003 @ 03:20 PM post located here
themuzicman:
Maybe that's the root question: Why is there this burning desire for EDF?
Michael
I think people want to believe that God has EDF because they think if God knows the future as only
partly settled, even though God's knowledge of the future is
exhaustive, then God's knowledge is less than perfect. In other words, knowing the future as completely settled and fixed is perfect while knowing the future as partly settled and changing from possible to actual is less than perfect.
I can see how in some people's minds knowing something as "partly" anything sounds less than perfect on the face of it.
Also, I think many people believe that there is only one possibility for any given situation that is the
perfect possibility to be actualized. For example, the thinking that God must have ALWAYS known that Moses would intercede and seem to persuade God to not destroy Israel in Ex 32 because that was the one best way for things to transpire. That God is able to take several routes to get to the same end does not square well with people's ideas of perfection i.e. the one
best route out of many.
Great observation Chance! I used to think very similarly. If God didn't know something He couldn't be God. How different a picture the bible portrays however. And btw, cool SN....works well as a counter to EDF eh? :brow:
If I have a mystical experience, an experience that's so overwhelming that I know now that there's a God, the cognitive fallout from that is irrelevant. The fact that that experience can be explained by psychologists in numerous ways is irrelevant to the fact that I now know.
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