Refuges

[binyanpiel]

I got no response from this on another thread so will try again here

Has anyone else been spoken to by the Lord about providing refuges, or as some might call it, "places of rest" for His people?

While I was still in California, the Lord began to speak to me about a Refuge for His people. He coupled this with a vision of the planet Earth being encircled by rapidly moving steel tracks that wound around it tighter and tighter until the middle was squeezed like a waist.

He led me to see that the devil, thru his abilities as the prince of this world system, has been for many years speeding things up, until many of God's own people are so busy they have no time for Him, or if they spend some time seeking Him, it is blighted by the "busyness" of the world.

I "saw", as if as an example, a large house with a four car garage, and mom and some kids in one SUV and dad in another speeding somewhere, to tennis lessons, piano lessons, soccer practice, after school events, appointments, and so on.

The implication was that the bills on the huge house, multiple cars, and lessons for the kiddies were so overwhelming the parents yielded to the "speed" of life as a way to avoid facing a collapse of life as known to them.

Also, that the very busyness was a snare to keep them from realizing they have no relationship with God, and no idea how that might happen, or so much as realize why they might need such a relationship.

He indicated the need for Refuge, that is, places where His people could spend time, and give to the Lord the attention He deserves and for our own well-being. This refuge idea is not that of a retreat or a campground, but a place where some might decide to live, while others come to stay variable lengths of time as they are able: a quiet place, a restful garden, and a place where help could be found in the seeking of God and a relationship with him from other Christians who have given the time and have the relationship.

The Refuge places would also be a safe place for those fleeing persecution, though I didn't see that part at the beginning of the speaking and impressions.

Since then, I have done what I can to set up such a place here in KY, buying land and having utilities put on it for use when it is needed by the people of God.

Not long after I first heard from the Lord on this subject, I began to hear of many others who have had the same kind of speaking, some have already been able to establish such places.

I read a book called "The Second Exodus" of Jews out of Russia and other lands in their coming back to Jerusalem. In the book, which I read after the Lord had already been speaking to me about the Refuges for some time, it is mentioned on several occasions about people being warned ahead of time to get places ready for visitors and their buying of lands and buildings to provide shelter. In many cases, the lands and buildings were in use shortly after the Lord's speaking came to the providers.

I feel as if there is something else I should be doing now, as the land is just basically sitting there. In fact, I have it up for sale, as it may not have been the right location. There is another person's land between the acreage I have and the road and to enter mine, you have to pass right by their house. I may be able to buy their land, which would increase the size of the land available and give better access. Or if I get the price I'm asking, I will be able to buy a larger parcel. I'm open to the Lord for whatever He wishes to do with the land, and with me, in accordance with His desire for the Refuge.

I'm very interested to know if anyone else has heard similar things from the Lord. I have already met one here in KY who has a similar vision and have recently heard of another who was to look at the acreage I have and was looking for land to do exactly the same thing.
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[Redwolf]

I got no response from this on another thread so will try again here

Has anyone else been spoken to by the Lord about providing refuges, or as some might call it, "places of rest" for His people?

While I was still in California, the Lord began to speak to me about a Refuge for His people. He coupled this with a vision of the planet Earth being encircled by rapidly moving steel tracks that wound around it tighter and tighter until the middle was squeezed like a waist.

He led me to see that the devil, thru his abilities as the prince of this world system, has been for many years speeding things up, until many of God's own people are so busy they have no time for Him, or if they spend some time seeking Him, it is blighted by the "busyness" of the world.

I "saw", as if as an example, a large house with a four car garage, and mom and some kids in one SUV and dad in another speeding somewhere, to tennis lessons, piano lessons, soccer practice, after school events, appointments, and so on.

The implication was that the bills on the huge house, multiple cars, and lessons for the kiddies were so overwhelming the parents yielded to the "speed" of life as a way to avoid facing a collapse of life as known to them.

Also, that the very busyness was a snare to keep them from realizing they have no relationship with God, and no idea how that might happen, or so much as realize why they might need such a relationship.

He indicated the need for Refuge, that is, places where His people could spend time, and give to the Lord the attention He deserves and for our own well-being. This refuge idea is not that of a retreat or a campground, but a place where some might decide to live, while others come to stay variable lengths of time as they are able: a quiet place, a restful garden, and a place where help could be found in the seeking of God and a relationship with him from other Christians who have given the time and have the relationship.

The Refuge places would also be a safe place for those fleeing persecution, though I didn't see that part at the beginning of the speaking and impressions.

Since then, I have done what I can to set up such a place here in KY, buying land and having utilities put on it for use when it is needed by the people of God.

Not long after I first heard from the Lord on this subject, I began to hear of many others who have had the same kind of speaking, some have already been able to establish such places.

I read a book called "The Second Exodus" of Jews out of Russia and other lands in their coming back to Jerusalem. In the book, which I read after the Lord had already been speaking to me about the Refuges for some time, it is mentioned on several occasions about people being warned ahead of time to get places ready for visitors and their buying of lands and buildings to provide shelter. In many cases, the lands and buildings were in use shortly after the Lord's speaking came to the providers.

I feel as if there is something else I should be doing now, as the land is just basically sitting there. In fact, I have it up for sale, as it may not have been the right location. There is another person's land between the acreage I have and the road and to enter mine, you have to pass right by their house. I may be able to buy their land, which would increase the size of the land available and give better access. Or if I get the price I'm asking, I will be able to buy a larger parcel. I'm open to the Lord for whatever He wishes to do with the land, and with me, in accordance with His desire for the Refuge.

I'm very interested to know if anyone else has heard similar things from the Lord. I have already met one here in KY who has a similar vision and have recently heard of another who was to look at the acreage I have and was looking for land to do exactly the same thing.
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I want to ask you as gently as I am able.....is the necessity of such places of refuge mentioned in scripture? It must be verifiable and speak according to the word of God.
Also, please beware of charlatans.

[binyanpiel]

I want to ask you as gently as I am able.....is the necessity of such places of refuge mentioned in scripture? It must be verifiable and speak according to the word of God.
Also, please beware of charlatans.

Thank you for your concern. It's still difficult for me to understand why it would not occur to some to whom I mention the speaking from the Lord that I have thoroughly and painstakingly determined the speaking to, indeed, be from the Lord. (To the point that I came to understand He was not pleased with my continual doubting, actually.) But, I have received the same advice in various other words from others. That doesn't eliminate the gratitude I do feel for the concern, though.

As for your statement "It must be verifiable and speak according to the word of God.", I wonder. Is that a doctrinal belief of your church group and/or your own? I wonder if the people who heard the prophets of old could "verify..according to the Word of God" the messages they delivered?

In Acts 9, did Ananias find the vision given him "verifiable according to the Word of God"? There may be other examples I could use, but I do not wish to belabor the point, only to speak to your statement.

[Redwolf]

Thank you for your concern. It's still difficult for me to understand why it would not occur to some to whom I mention the speaking from the Lord that I have thoroughly and painstakingly determined the speaking to, indeed, be from the Lord. (To the point that I came to understand He was not pleased with my continual doubting, actually.) But, I have received the same advice in various other words from others. That doesn't eliminate the gratitude I do feel for the concern, though.

As for your statement "It must be verifiable and speak according to the word of God.", I wonder. Is that a doctrinal belief of your church group and/or your own? I wonder if the people who heard the prophets of old could "verify..according to the Word of God" the messages they delivered?

In Acts 9, did Ananias find the vision given him "verifiable according to the Word of God"? There may be other examples I could use, but I do not wish to belabor the point, only to speak to your statement.

"it is written" - Jesus says - and the Jews and, therefore, the Christians, have always had the written word.

Isaiah 8:20.........'if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them'


I do hope that all is working well for you.
All God's blessings,
Redwolf