Hebrew name?

[MuggleOrSquib]

Yeshu'ah does mean 'salvation', but is feminine.
The root verb is Yod Shin 'Ain
Adonai yasha'ni, vhu yeshu'ati--The Lord saved me, and He is my salvation. or 'the Lord helped me, He is my help'
The name "Yeshu'a" doesn't refer to God at all, it merely contains the root consonants.
The names "Yehoshu'a" and "Yoshu'a" do refer to God.
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The Syriac was definitely NOT written to put the Scriptures back into the language of Ishu' Mshikha. It was written because Syriac was the main language of the Christians of Mesopotamia.

Be Well,
Bob Griffin

[Menachem]

Can I ask why you want to know? I mean, what is the significance of the name to you? And what would you accept as evidence? I don't think a stronger argument can be made than on the strength of the greek texts that we have.

I am just curious as to how the name Yeshu'a was arrived to having been his "original" hebrew name?

[Recognitiones]

Besides for the Pe[color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color]ta, the Sinaitic and Curetonian spell his name as ישוע. Other Aramaic writings present the same case. In my experience I've never seen his name spelled another way except for missing the ayin. The same name is pointed as יֵשׁוּעַ in the books of Ezra and Nehemiah.

[Menachem]

Besides for the Pe[color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color]ta, the Sinaitic and Curetonian spell his name as ישוע. Other Aramaic writings present the same case. In my experience I've never seen his name spelled another way except for missing the ayin. The same name is pointed as יֵשׁוּעַ in the books of Ezra and Nehemiah.

regarding your reference to Ezra-Nechemiah.

That was the name of Jeshua the Kohen gadol(High Priest) who helped Zerubabel rebuild the Temple.

[Recognitiones]

regarding your reference to Ezra-Nechemiah.

That was the name of Jeshua the Kohen gadol(High Priest) who helped Zerubabel rebuild the Temple.

I know, but as I said, it is the "same name."

[barryrob]

Simply put my questions are:

What was jesus' original hebrew name? Where did you get this information?

Strong's Greek Dictionary No. 2424 Iesous {ee-ay-sooce'} of Hebrew origin 03091; TDNT - 3:284,360; n pr m.
AV - Jesus 972, Jesus (Joshua) 2, Jesus (Justus) 1; 975 Jesus = "Jehovah is salvation"
1) Jesus, the Son of God, the Saviour of mankind, God incarnate
2) Jesus Barabbas was the captive robber whom the Jews begged Pilate to release instead of Christ
3) Joshua was the famous captain of the Israelites, Moses' successor (Ac. 7:45, Heb. 4:8)
4) Jesus, son of Eliezer, one of the ancestors of Christ (Lu. 3:29)
5) Jesus, surnamed Justus, a Jewish Christian, an associate with Paul in the preaching of the gospel (Col. 4:11)

[Chavak]

I don't see how anyone could know his Hebrew name since
the NT was not written in Hebrew and you cannot back
translate a name (ie, someone who has the Hebrew name
Pesach is not going to be called "Passover" in English.

[RBerman]

I don't see how anyone could know his Hebrew name since
the NT was not written in Hebrew and you cannot back
translate a name (ie, someone who has the Hebrew name
Pesach is not going to be called "Passover" in English.

Come again? The New Testament is full of Hebrew and Aramaic proper nouns. They're just translitterated from Hebrew into Greek.

[John Reece]

I don't see how anyone could know his Hebrew name since
the NT was not written in Hebrew and you cannot back
translate a name (ie, someone who has the Hebrew name
Pesach is not going to be called "Passover" in English.

The name Ἰησοῦς (Iēsous) in the New Testament occurs also in the Septuagint, wherein it is a rendering of the Hebrew name ‏יְהוֹשֻׁעַ (yᵉhôshua‘).

[Bib Lit Major]

I know and I apologize for my generalization.

However there is something else going on here in my opinion.

In my readings I have read of the greek term "Ieosus" referring to the name Hoshea as well as Jeshua the Kohen Gadol, and also Joshua ben Nun

44 και εγραψεν Μωυσης την ωδην ταυτην εν εκεινη τη ημερα
και εδιδαξεν αυτην τους υιους Ισραηλ και εισηλθεν Μωυσης και
ελαλησεν παντας τους λογους του νομου τουτου εις τα ωτα
του λαου αυτος και Ιησους ο του Ναυη

in the Hebrew it is Hoshea son of nun yet the term iesosus is used for the name of Hoshea.

44. And Moses came and spoke all the words of this poem in the ears of the people, he, and Hoshea the son of Nun.

וַיָּבֹא מֹשֶׁה וַיְדַבֵּר אֶת-כָּל-דִּבְרֵי הַשִּׁירָה-הַזֹּאת בְּאָזְנֵי הָעָם: הוּא וְהוֹשֵׁעַ בִּן-נוּן.

Well there is also Deut 1:38; 31:3; 34:9 (and these are just the nominative forms in the book of Deuteronomy alone):

[greek]IhsouV[/greek]

This is in Hebrew, yehoshua, not hoshea. I wonder if there was a scribal error in Deut 32:44 and instead of putting a yod, the scribe let the pen fall too far down and made a waw. Or, the yod could have been omitted after the waw. Then, later, when the Masoretes introduced pointing, it was pointed as hoshea.

It is clear that [greek]IhsouV[/greek] can in fact go back to yehoshua. Now that does not necessarily prove Jesus' Hebrew name was yehoshua but it is definitely plausible. It is probably not hoshea

[John Reece]

From Jeffery H. Tigay's comment on Deuteronomy 1:38 in The JPS Torah Commentary: Deuteronomy (Philadelphia: The Jewish Publication Society, 1996):

Joshua son of Nun.... Joshua (yehosua‘) probably means "the LORD [yeho] is a noble [sua‘]." According to Numbers 13:16 Joshua was originally called Hosea and was renamed by Moses. His original name (mentioned in Deuteronomy 32:44) is a short form of Hoshaiah, meaning "save, O LORD!"

Numbers 13:8, 16 (NRSV)

⁸from the tribe of Ephraim, Hoshea son of Nun; ¹⁶These were the names of the men whom Moses sent to spy out the land. And Moses changed the name of Hoshea son of Nun to Joshua.

From Jacob Milgrom's comment on Numbers 13:16 in The JPS Torah Commentary: Numbers (Philadelphia: The Jewish Publication Society, 1990):

Joshua..... Hebrew yehosua‘, originally hoshea‘ (verse 8; Deut. 32:44). Since the priestly tradition maintains that the theophoric element yeho (standing for the Tetragrammaton YHVH) was unknown before the Exodus (cf. Exod. 6:2), Joshua, who was born in Egypt, could not have carried the name from birth.

[Bib Lit Major]

From Jeffery H. Tigay's comment on Deuteronomy 1:38 in The JPS Torah Commentary: Deuteronomy (Philadelphia: The Jewish Publication Society, 1996):

Joshua son of Nun.... Joshua (yehosua‘) probably means "the LORD [yeho] is a noble [sua‘]." According to Numbers 13:16 Joshua was originally called Hosea and was renamed by Moses. His original name (mentioned in Deuteronomy 32:44) is a short form of Hoshaiah, meaning "save, O LORD!"

Numbers 13:8, 16 (NRSV)

⁸from the tribe of Ephraim, Hoshea son of Nun; ¹⁶These were the names of the men whom Moses sent to spy out the land. And Moses changed the name of Hoshea son of Nun to Joshua.

From Jacob Milgrom's comment on Numbers 13:16 in The JPS Torah Commentary: Numbers (Philadelphia: The Jewish Publication Society, 1990):

Joshua..... Hebrew yehosua‘, originally hoshea‘ (verse 8; Deut. 32:44). Since the priestly tradition maintains that the theophoric element yeho (standing for the Tetragrammaton YHVH) was unknown before the Exodus (cf. Exod. 6:2), Joshua, who was born in Egypt, could not have carried the name from birth.

Thanks for the clarification :) I stand corrected

[yonah_mishael]

I just wanted to add that the word "savior" in Hebrew is מוֹשִׁיעַ (that is, moshi'a or môšî(a)ʿ, depending on your transliteration preferences). I've posted this since "savior" was claimed to be the translation of Jesus' name from Hebrew.