Baptists aren't Protestants?

[technomage]

Reformed Baptist? That would be quite bizarre, since Baptists aren't Protestant. [img]../forum/images/smilies/huh.gif[/img]

Source.

RightIdea, if you're talking history, then I believe you're incorrect ... but rather than assuming, let me ask you to clarify the above, if you would please.

Justin

[Xavier]

Source.

RightIdea, if you're talking history, then I believe you're incorrect ... but rather than assuming, let me ask you to clarify the above, if you would please.

Justin

Seems like a common Baptist tactic... I've yet seen one been able to actually pull of full confession out from before the Reformation... Wonder why...

[themuzicman]

Source.

RightIdea, if you're talking history, then I believe you're incorrect ... but rather than assuming, let me ask you to clarify the above, if you would please.

Justin

Baptists claim their historical roots in the Anabaptist movement, which was perscuted by the Catholic church, and supposedly can trace it's roots back to the days of the apostles.

Michael

[eudyptes]

Baptists claim their historical roots in the Anabaptist movement, which was perscuted by the Catholic church, and supposedly can trace it's roots back to the days of the apostles.

Michael

I remember a booklet that we studied when I was still in jr high. I believe it was called "Trail of Blood", it was supposed to be a quick history of how the Baptists come from a direct line of one of the early churches.

I don't remember if the booklet touched on the Anabaptists or not, it's been a long time ago. Plus I found it boring, and a nonissue to me, so I wasn't paying to much attention at the time anyway.

[Amazing Rando]

Baptists claim their historical roots in the Anabaptist movement, which was perscuted by the Catholic church, and supposedly can trace it's roots back to the days of the apostles.

Michael

Not exactly. I'm an Anabaptist (just got re-baptized, in fact!) and I've no problem considering myself a Protestant.

[Amazing Rando]

Not exactly. I'm an Anabaptist (just got re-baptized, in fact!) and I've no problem considering myself a Protestant.

To be specific, Anabaptists are usually considered to be part of the "radical reformation" in that they didn't believe that Luther went far enough.

[Meh_Gerbil]

Doesn't Protestant basically mean 'not Catholic' in Christian circles anyways?

Plus, I really, really hate the whole 'we trace our beliefs back to an early church' argument anyways. So your heresy is older than mine -- what does that prove exactly? It must really amuse the Jewish folks in the room to see a Baptist claim something so trivial.

[Amazing Rando]

Doesn't Protestant basically mean 'not Catholic' in Christian circles anyways?

For most people, yeah. If you're not Catholic nor Eastern Orthodox, then by default, you're a Protestant. Some people get all self-righteous and say, "I'm not a Protestant! I'm a biblical Christian!" Makes me kinda ill.

[themuzicman]

Doesn't Protestant basically mean 'not Catholic' in Christian circles anyways?

Plus, I really, really hate the whole 'we trace our beliefs back to an early church' argument anyways. So your heresy is older than mine -- what does that prove exactly? It must really amuse the Jewish folks in the room to see a Baptist claim something so trivial.

Technically, protestant would be a denomination that descends apostolically from Luther.

Michael

[technomage]

Depends on whose definition of "technical." After Luther, there were many groups that split from Catholicism (the Anglican church being, perhaps, the most famous) that are considered Protestant, yet who have no apostolic continuity to Luther.

[Amazing Rando]

Technically, protestant would be a denomination that descends apostolically from Luther.

Michael

Not neccesarily. Reformed Churches are most definitely non-Lutheran, yet they're usually deemed Protestant.

[Meh_Gerbil]

Well, I no longer feel safe calling myself a Protestant since the term seems to have no fixed meaning. I wouldn't want to communicate the wrong information -- and possibly offend someone by claiming to be Protestant while attending a Baptist Church.

I need a new title -- something vague that melds a hodge-podge of beliefs with no known roots -- something that updates my image, yet retains the gloss of antiquity.

*ponders*

Ah, I got it.

Call me a Wiccan.

[technomage]

Well, I no longer feel safe calling myself a Protestant since the term seems to have no fixed meaning. I wouldn't want to communicate the wrong information -- and possibly offend someone by claiming to be Protestant while attending a Baptist Church.

I need a new title -- something vague that melds a hodge-podge of beliefs with no known roots -- something that updates my image, yet retains the gloss of antiquity.

*ponders*

Ah, I got it.

Call me a Wiccan.

Watch it, bud ... keep on going like that, and I'll be calling you gator chow.

[themuzicman]

Not neccesarily. Reformed Churches are most definitely non-Lutheran, yet they're usually deemed Protestant.

Maybe that was a bit specific. IT would be break aways from the Catholic church during that day. I always assumed that Calvin broke from Luther.

Michael

[Amazing Rando]

Maybe that was a bit specific. IT would be break aways from the Catholic church during that day. I always assumed that Calvin broke from Luther.

Michael

Ever heard of the Marburg Colloquy? Zwingli and Luther debated the presence of Christ in communion/eucharist. I believe the year was 1526, though I can't be certain. Zwingli founded the Reformed churches completely independantly of Lutheran influence. I suppose we'd also have to classify the Anglican tradition as Protestant as well. The Anabaptist movement broke with Zwingli's Reformed church in 1525- so while not directly breaking from the Catholic church, it followed very soon after Zwingli's break.