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I posted this on another forum but thought it might be of some interest to those here.
Oil is made from the remains of marine organisms, mostly microscopic organisms. However, there are small inputs from terrestrial plants and animals. As the animals and plants are buried in organic-rich rocks, the organic chemicals are cooked into oil over time.
What does this have to do with the global flood? Well, according to the YEC model, all living beings were on the earth at the start of the flood and their remains are what makes oil. As such, if the global flood is true, we should expect that all the chemicals found in oil would be in all the oils sourced by the remains of the pre-flood organisms. There should be no sorting of the chemical precursors of oil.
But, if evolution took place, and different life forms were on earth at different times, we should expect to find certain chemicals in oils sourced by older source rocks and different chemicals in oils sourced by younger source rocks (or additional chemicals). Afterall, a plant or animal would have to evolve and live on earth before it could leave its characteristic chemicals in the oils generated millions of years after its death.
Well what do we find? We find that oil source rocks have different chemicals throughout the geologic column. And we find that we often can determine what plant or animal group left the chemicals in the oil. Let's start with the precambrian oils. Such oils are found in Oman which is sourced from the precambrian. But such oils lack all the chemicals found in oils from later rocks. More on that later. But, the precambrian oils had a unique chemical ratio from those higher up.
Why would the flood know how to sort these chemicals? Oils from source rocks older than 350 million years (Mississippian-Devonian Boundary) are high in hydrocarbons which have 29 carbon atoms, called C29-monoaromatic steroids.
Oils which are from source rocks earlier than the Jurassic lack 24-norcholoestanes.
Why were diatoms not in the preflood oceans? To follow the YEC logic, God must have created the diatoms in the middle of the flood--poof!
But the fact is that the YECs must explain why the oceans kept all 24-norcholoestane from being deposited until the flood waters were depositing the Jurassic rocks just when they decided to start depositing diatoms.
Retene, Cadalene and tetracyclic diterpanes appear in oils after the conifers appear on earth. They evolved in the Mississippian but became numerous in the Triassic. These chemicals are lacking in oils sourced from rocks before the Mississippian.
Oleanane is a chemical which is made only by angiosperms. I was once in a geochemistry seminar when the teacher, a good friend, claimed that he
could tell the difference between a Tertiary oil and all other oils. It was based on Oleanane, a chemical which angiosperms and only angiosperms create. I objected that angiosperms arose in the early Cretaceous. He replied that I was correct but that they were so rare until the very last stage of the Cretaceous that they left no record of oleanane in the rocks until the Maastrichtian (the last epoch of the Cretaceous). Thus he admitted that a few oils containing oleanane would not be Tertiary but 90% would be. His reasoning is based upon this:
YEC leaders need to explain why the global flood sorted these chemicals which are from plants and animals which should have existed on the preflood earth. Of course, they won't because they can't. And these YEC leaders hope you don't find out about such things.
For TW I will add something new. There is no grass and no grass pollen prior to the Tertiary. Why did God create grass in the middle of the global flood?
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