A POLITE Discussion about Singing Angels

[Cerebrum123]

Some day you will sing with a perfect voice to the Lord.

But I don't like to sing.

[Cow Poke]

I guessed I'd always assumed it was singing, but now that you mention it I can't think of anything more specific. I'll be interested to see if anyone else does.

Thanks - and I know this is "fine lining" it, but it's been a curiosity of mine. Because WE sing "holy holy holy", we tend to think the angels must have.

[Cow Poke]

But I don't like to sing.

you will

[mossrose]

But I don't like to sing.

You will.

[mossrose]

I like to think that everybody goes to Heaven. But, sadly, I can't support that from the Word.



But, I guess that's my point - a lot of what we believe about God, Heaven, His creation, Angels - comes from hymns or traditions or desires or our own imagination....
I'm pretty sure that if there were a verse that says that angels do NOT sing, I would have come across it.

In my own Christian experience, I have been coming back to, "OK, but is that REALLY in the Bible".

You are a big meanie.

Now I am sad.

[Cow Poke]

One of the USUAL responses I get is that the angels "sang a new song" - Rev 14:3, but.....

And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

It was the 144,000 redeemed from the earth who were singing.

[Cerebrum123]

you will

You will.

[Cow Poke]

You are a big meanie.

Now I am sad.

Don't be -- but have you ever heard the song.... Ten Thousand Years, and the verse...

We will just begin to sing love's sweet story.
It's a song that the angels cannot sing.
I'm redeemed by the blood of my Savior,
And ten thousand years or more, I'll praise His Name!

Again, that's "just a song", but it puts me in mind of the fact that WE will be singing redemption's story, but the angels haven't had that experience - of being redeemed.

[mossrose]

Don't be -- but have you ever heard the song.... Ten Thousand Years, and the verse...

We will just begin to sing love's sweet story.
It's a song that the angels cannot sing.
I'm redeemed by the blood of my Savior,
And ten thousand years or more, I'll praise His Name!

Again, that's "just a song", but it puts me in mind of the fact that WE will be singing redemption's story, but the angels haven't had that experience - of being redeemed.

I totally agree that the angels can't sing redemption's story. But I do think they are singing praise to God for His character and His works.

Regardless, I can't be serious about this topic, so I will leave.

[Cow Poke]

I totally agree that the angels can't sing redemption's story. But I do think they are singing praise to God for His character and His works.

Regardless, I can't be serious about this topic, so I will leave.

It's not really about the angels singing, Moss -- it just makes me wonder what ELSE is there that we assume the Bible says or teaches just because we WANT to believe it, or we learned it from some song, or some preacher told us.

But I understand what you're saying --

[mossrose]

It's not really about the angels singing, Moss -- it just makes me wonder what ELSE is there that we assume the Bible says or teaches just because we WANT to believe it, or we learned it from some song, or some preacher told us.

But I understand what you're saying --

I get you. It's like the three wise men. Tradition makes up so much of what we think about God, and it is always good to go right to scripture and get the right answer.

I am with you on that one, 100 percent.

[Cow Poke]

I get you. It's like the three wise men. Tradition makes up so much of what we think about God, and it is always good to go right to scripture and get the right answer.

I am with you on that one, 100 percent.

EGGzackly... then there's the nutty ones ... "cleanliness is next to godliness" - says so in the bible!

[Littlejoe]

CP, did you miss OBP's post? Are Cherubim and Seraphim not angels?

Isaiah 6, Rev. 5:11, 7:11-12

This is also reflected in the Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom:

"We who mystically represent the Cherubim sing the thrice holy hymn to the life giving Trinity. Let us set aside all the cares of life that we may receive the King of all invisibly escorted by the angelic hosts. Alleluia. Alleluia. Alleluia."

and

"We also thank You for this liturgy which You are pleased to accept from our hands, even though You are surrounded by thousands of Archangels and tens of thousands of Angels, by the Cherubim and Seraphim, six-winged, many-eyed, soaring with their wings, singing the victory hymn, proclaiming, crying out, and saying: 'Holy, holy, holy, Lord Sabaoth, heaven and earth are filled with Your glory. Hosanna in the highest. Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord. Hosanna to God in the highest.'"

and in the Liturgy of St. James (one of the earliest extant liturgies):

"Let all mortal flesh be silent, and stand with fear and trembling, and meditate nothing earthly within itself: For the King of kings and Lord of lords, Christ our God, comes forward to be sacrificed, and to be given for food to the faithful; and the bands of angels go before Him with every power and dominion, the many-eyed cherubim, and the six-winged seraphim, covering their faces, and crying aloud the hymn, Alleluia, Alleluia, Alleluia."

and

"Verily it is becoming and right, proper and due to praise Thee, to sing of Thee, to bless Thee, to worship Thee, to glorify Thee, to give Thee thanks, Maker of every creature visible and invisible, the treasure of eternal good things, the fountain of life and immortality, God and Lord of all:

Whom the heavens of heavens praise, and all the host of them; the sun, and the moon, and all the choir of the stars; earth, sea, and all that is in them; Jerusalem, the heavenly assembly, and church of the first-born that are written in heaven; spirits of just men and of prophets; souls of martyrs and of apostles; angels, archangels, thrones, dominions, principalities, and authorities, and dread powers; and the many-eyed cherubim, and the six-winged seraphim, which cover their faces with two wings, their feet with two, and with two they fly, crying one to another with unresting lips, with unceasing praises: With loud voice singing the victorious hymn of Thy majestic glory, crying aloud, praising, shouting, and saying: Holy, holy, holy, O Lord of Sabaoth, the heaven and the earth are full of Thy glory. Hosanna in the highest; blessed is He that cometh in the name of the Lord. Hosanna in the highest!"

[Littlejoe]

CP, did you miss OBP's post? Are Cherubim and Seraphim not angels?

NVM, I see you answered that...

[Cow Poke]

CP, did you miss OBP's post? Are Cherubim and Seraphim not angels?

here...

Is 6 - they were "calling" to one another.
Rev 5:12 - "They said with a loud voice:"
Rev 7:12 - "saying: Amen! Blessing and glory and wisdom....