Congress to Repeal 22nd Ammendment

[Darth Executor]

You just wizzed in the wrong bowl of cornflakes, moron. Were you so eager to win the argument that you don't care who you trample over on your way to victory lane? I didn't give the party affiliations because I was giving the Democrats on this forum a chance to see their own error. At that point, they could apologize honorably, or continue to stick their foot into their mouth.

So instead of watching Democrats with hoof-in-mouth, I get kicked in the teeth by a Republican with his head up his rectum. What do you do for an encore--shoot your own wounded?

Whoa, did you have your teeth replaced with fangs or something? You don't sound like the Justin that made this post of the day:

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...ad.php?t=54508

[technomage]

Whoa, did you have your teeth replaced with fangs or something? You don't sound like the Justin that made this post of the day:

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...ad.php?t=54508

Darth, being honest in dealing with people on TWeb goes both ways. If they do the right thing, acknowledge it and go on. If they do something wrong in ignorance or innocence, then point out the error kindly and patiently. But if someone wants to cross the line just for the "power over" it gives them, then they get a sharp rap across the muzzle.

I have two ways of treating people: kind words whenever I can is what I prefer, but if it must come to blows, I will not pull my punches.

[bar Jonah]

Hey, I said I'm sorry, I reacted and snapped at you. And to be honest, you changed your name since last year, so since I came back recently, I often haven't even remembered who you are. I honestly forgot that you are Justin_Wiccan and that you're a conservative like myself. Heck, a lot of folks have changed their names, and I've had a hard time figuring out who everyone is. Granted, your sig gives a clue, but I overlooked that; there are many folks named Justin in the world.

I appreciate you providing the information you posted. I don't know what else to say.

[technomage]

Hey, I said I'm sorry, I reacted and snapped at you. And to be honest, you changed your name since last year, so since I came back recently, I often haven't even remembered who you are.

I posted my response before I saw the apology in post 13 ... and yeah, the confusion from the name change is my fault. So I also owe you an apology ... but bear with me a moment as I also give an explanation.

Part of the reason I "jumped" was because of the underlying insinuation (back in Post 11) that I wasn't posting the party affiliations because I was trying to be dishonest. You used to be Wiccan--you know that most Wiccans would rather be accused of taking indecent liberties with the family dog than be accused of dishonesty.

But the major part of the reason is that my gums are hurting and I have absolutely no patience today. Jim, you bear absolutely no responsibility for that ... yet I let you have it with both barrels. For which I apologize, my friend.

I think at this point the best course of action for me is to take my pain meds and take a nap. I'll try to be something remotely resembling civilized when I get up.

[bar Jonah]

Boy, I thought you were being more persnippety than usual, yourself!

We're cool, dog. I'm down wid it, yo.

*reprizents*

[Conductor42]

Pretty much. Yoshiyahu, I know you're not terribly fond of Bush (understatement of the week there, perhaps? ), but this particular bill will die in committee.

I may not like all of Bush's politics, but I wouldn't paint him nearly as evil as certain people have done. I did vote for him after all... (Kerry, IMO, would have been much worse)

Write your Congress-critters to let them know you don't support it, but beyond that, don't sweat it.

I'll try not to. I'm a little bit in the paranoid mood right now.

[Conductor42]

Who are the people that are proposing this and why are they proposing it?

It was in the posting.

[Conductor42]

Just like the draft garbage. They create their own crisis, get people stirred up that this could happen, and the public immediately thinks that this is about getting Bush re-elected, and all the while leaving out the fact that this is a Democrat initiative. They have no intention of going through with this, any more than they did with the draft proposal. They wanted people to be afraid that the Republicans would start a draft. So they create their own bill to do that, leave out who sponsored it, and watch the public assume the exact opposite. Then, they can later pull the bill after they get some political capital out of it. But what sticks in everyone's minds is that the Republicans are the administration running this war, and the draft was proposed.

And it's the Repubs in the White House, and now there's a bill to do away with the 22nd amendment. Those darn corrupt conservatives! :riahem:

Hogwash and hornswaggle.

Yeah, that draft stuff was a bunch of crap. I opened a can of political wup-butt on one of my lefty friends when he was saying that the Right-wingers were trying to bring back the draft.

For the record, this isn't just a left-wing rant. I'm a Conservative Libertarian (I have some Republican leanings, and I can't stand the ultra-left). But I don't want Bush in office for another term. Nor do I think any other president should have the ability.

In a uncorrupt society, I wouldn't oppose repealling the bill. But the potential for abuse is too great to allow one man to run the office of president for so long.

[Conductor42]

Cool avatar, man.

Thanks. It's one of the shirts avaliable at http://thinklibertarian.com/

[bar Jonah]

Completely agreed, Yosh! And you're right, Kerry would have been disastrous... worse than Clinton.

As for Bush, I agree there, too. I'm very disappointed in him on a number of counts. He has compromised on way too many things, and his stance on the border issues is potentially disastrous. But, he's the lesser of many weevils.

I have been looking forward to the possibility of Condi running in '08, but now I'm hearing she is apparently pro-choice. I will NOT vote for a pro-choice candidate, period. It's not the only issue, but the murder of 40 million children is a litmus test issue. I'll vote Constitution Party first, probably. But I hope that rumor is wrong.

[technomage]

As for Bush, I agree there, too. I'm very disappointed in him on a number of counts. He has compromised on way too many things, and his stance on the border issues is potentially disastrous.

It's the only way to get anything done in DC.

The problem is liberals are not being "deliberately evil"--they honestly feel that freedom of choice (as an example) is one of the "inalienable rights." We're not fighting the dastardly villain in the black cloak ... we're opposing someone who earnestly believes they're doing the right thing for all involved.

That's why I feel it's foolish in the extreme to demonize ones political enemies. I gravely disagree with Kerry's policies, but I'm not going to shout insults and derision, because all that does is distract from the real issues.

[Conductor42]

I think that both the pro-life and the pro-choice sides are wrong, but that's for another thread :P

[Captain Ochre]

For the record, this isn't just a left-wing rant. I'm a Conservative Libertarian (I have some Republican leanings, and I can't stand the ultra-left). But I don't want Bush in office for another term. Nor do I think any other president should have the ability.

Unless I misread something, it seemed that the President in office when the bill was either introduced or ultimately installed as part of the Constitution was exempt from receiving benefit from it. According to the apparent wording of the proposal, anyway.
That leaves only Carter, Ford, George H. W. Bush, or Clinton as potential beneficiaries.

In a uncorrupt society, I wouldn't oppose repealling the bill. But the potential for abuse is too great to allow one man to run the office of president for so long.

You're probably right about that.
There's a flip side to the problem, of course, in that staff positions MOL leave unelected folks pulling some of the important strings in the first place.
There's no easy fix to that problem, AFAICT.

[Captain Ochre]

Unless I misread something,

I misread something.

[Menachem]

I think that both the pro-life and the pro-choice sides are wrong, but that's for another thread :P

so do I!