The Pagan Next Door

[Krusader]

I have no sins, that is a Christian concept. As for my Goddess. She has stood by me, supported me and guided me over 20 years. She has the advantage over your god of consistency. Your response is also if you will pardon my amusement predictable. When one sees the spiritual as a duality like you do, then if other gods manifest themselves in the lives of their worshipers since they can not be your "God", then they must be your "Devil". No matter what they do you must view it as a preamble to an evil purpose.. If not, then one of the underpinnings of your faith would be false.

Blessed Be, Dur

So, you have no sin. Tell me, is it alright to lie in Wicca?

[Durthorin]

So, you have no sin. Tell me, is it alright to lie in Wicca?

Whatever you do will return to you threefold. In my faith what is looked for is intent. If I lie for my own greed, then my greed will turn on me and I will suffer for it. If I lie to protect another from harm, then my intent is good.

Would it be a sin for you to lie to a husband searching for his wife hiding in your house when you knew that if he found her he would beat and possible kill her?

In my Faith if my intent is to protect and innocent then my Gods & Ancestors will judge me on that.

Would it be a sin in a business deal for you to tell the truth but omit something you were not required to tell him that would make your buyer walk away from the purchase if he knew?

An if my intent was to gain at another's expense I would be judged on that.. even if I did not lie.

One thing I forgot to mention in that prayer earlier is a line where I call upon my father now dead and my ancestors to walk with me and guide me so that what I do brings honor to my Gods and to my Ancestors.

[Krusader]

Whatever you do will return to you threefold. In my faith what is looked for is intent. If I lie for my own greed, then my greed will turn on me and I will suffer for it. If I lie to protect another from harm, then my intent is good.

Would it be a sin for you to lie to a husband searching for his wife hiding in your house when you knew that if he found her he would beat and possible kill her?

In my Faith if my intent is to protect and innocent then my Gods & Ancestors will judge me on that.

Would it be a sin in a business deal for you to tell the truth but omit something you were not required to tell him that would make your buyer walk away from the purchase if he knew?

An if my intent was to gain at another's expense I would be judged on that.. even if I did not lie.

One thing I forgot to mention in that prayer earlier is a line where I call upon my father now dead and my ancestors to walk with me and guide me so that what I do brings honor to my Gods and to my Ancestors.

So, basically you're into Karma and situation ethics. I've noted the link betwen Hinduism and Wicca, actually. You need to study Thomas Aquinas to get some answers to your questions.

[Durthorin]

So, basically you're into Karma and situation ethics. I've noted the link betwen Hinduism and Wicca, actually. You need to study Thomas Aquinas to get some answers to your questions.

I have no questions my own faith does not answer. Mostly I seem to be answering yours. Hinduism and most polytheistic pagan faiths have certain commonalities. Then again we have differences as well.

Blessed Be, Dur

[Krusader]

I have no questions my own faith does not answer. Mostly I seem to be answering yours. Hinduism and most polytheistic pagan faiths have certain commonalities. Then again we have differences as well.

Blessed Be, Dur

The questions you are answering are about you personal belief system. I'm not seeking your theological opinion in Christian matters. But, thanks for the responses. Interesting.

[Ex Nihilo]

Ah, don't mind me ... I'm fairly short of temper anyway with my teeth having recently been yanked (got 29 teeth pulled on the 10th). Usually I'm at least a bit more patient.

Sorry, Darth ... chalk it up to sore gums.

This thread is three years old and I don't see a single comment asking why on this good earth did you get TWENTY NINE teeth pulled?

Not being mean, being serious here... heroin? That's the only way I can think of.

[technomage]

So, you have no sin. Tell me, is it alright to lie in Wicca?

"Sin" is a human concept--and one that is a grave error. There is nothing that a person can do to separate them from the Creator. Even you, who do not know our Gods, and have forgotten your own, are indwelled by the Goddess.

That is not a statement you will accept or agree with, but it is true.

[technomage]

This thread is three years old and I don't see a single comment asking why on this good earth did you get TWENTY NINE teeth pulled?

Not being mean, being serious here... heroin? That's the only way I can think of.

Back when I was abusing drugs, I messed up my liver, and went for a while with horrible calcium absorption--which in turn, really weakened my teeth. I had to get some of them pulled and just decided to pull the lot. :gummy:

[Ex Nihilo]

Back when I was abusing drugs, I messed up my liver, and went for a while with horrible calcium absorption--which in turn, really weakened my teeth. I had to get some of them pulled and just decided to pull the lot. :gummy:

Craziness. It seems you got out of that, and I am glad to hear it.

[technomage]

I've been clean 19 years this last June. "Craziness" doesn't even begin to cover it--"abject stupidity" is closer, but doesn't quite catch all of the nuances of idiocy.

[Krusader]

"Sin" is a human concept--and one that is a grave error. There is nothing that a person can do to separate them from the Creator. Even you, who do not know our Gods, and have forgotten your own, are indwelled by the Goddess.

That is not a statement you will accept or agree with, but it is true.

I know the only God Who exists, YHWH, the I AM WHO I AM. The God of Abraham, and Jacob, and Moses, and Isaiah, and the One Who took on flesh and went to the cross to pay the sin penalty. Sin is very real, and has very real consequences.

[technomage]

I know the only God Who exists, YHWH, the I AM WHO I AM. The God of Abraham, and Jacob, and Moses, and Isaiah, and the One Who took on flesh and went to the cross to pay the sin penalty. Sin is very real, and has very real consequences.

As I said, that is your belief--and you believe many things. Your beliefs have no bearing on objective reality. (Mine don't either, by the way.)

[Krusader]

As I said, that is your belief--and you believe many things. Your beliefs have no bearing on objective reality. (Mine don't either, by the way.)

The Resurrection of Christ was a defining moment in history - and that is an objective reality.

[technomage]

The Resurrection of Christ was a defining moment in history - and that is an objective reality.

Oh, and here I thought you were going to put me on ignore. You didn't. How sweet of you.

The resurrection of Christ is a Christian myth. You're welcome to it, but it makes no difference to me or to my beliefs.

[Krusader]

Oh, and here I thought you were going to put me on ignore. You didn't. How sweet of you.

The resurrection of Christ is a Christian myth. You're welcome to it, but it makes no difference to me or to my beliefs.

And, if it isn't a myth?

I put you on ignore on CARM. You're getting your sites mixed up. This particular forum is for witches, so I don't think I need to.

I'd really like for you to see what this Phd. says about the resurrection, and refute it if you can:

http://www.askelm.com/doctrine/d071101.htm