Submit Your Candidates for July Screwballs of the Month

[HyperHobbes]

Poor Abnoxio, we hardly knew ye.

[jpholding]

Cool, I was hoping to get your creative juices flowing. To be honest you do have a good sense of cartooning. (I gotta be honest for cripes sake, the dudes got some chops!)

Oh, you haven't seen the best project yet....it will debut in August.

doesn't seem like a very open forum.

It isn't -- it has "rules". Maybe you have heard of those. We have at least TWO prominent atheists here (maybe more) who use their own brand name. If I used their real names without permission (and I know them) I'd get edited too.

You? Nice? We'll see. What Rx are you on for that? In any event, "the Matrix" will ensure that you will be nice -- or you won't post here.

Seriously Dr. Holding, why is it that you want to "slam" people into the wall?

Public shame of those who spread error has been in vogue since Elisha and the prophets of Baal, and Jesus and the Pharisees, my dear boy.

In my case it only seems to be for my allegiance to a historicly held and somewhat mainstream theological view.

Not the way you expressed it, no.

I have absolutely no idea who all of these people are. I'm not familiar with your work in response to them, much less theirs.

Then I assume there will be no more comments about me not taking on Calvinists....

I have no idea Dr. Holding, what you are refering to.

Precisely. If you do wish to learn, read my series on Calvinisn, esp. on U and I; it is linked on my front page.

[HyperHobbes]

"Public shame of those who spread error has been in vogue since Elisha and the prophets of Baal, and Jesus and the Pharisees, my dear boy."

That's Elijah.

"Not the way you expressed it, no."

I'm open to that line of discussion, care to explain why, other than it was "spectacularly phrased"?

"Then I assume there will be no more comments about me not taking on Calvinists...."

Ok, back to the Sproul comparison Dr. Holding, why take on Calvinists and rub up against a famous one?

"Precisely. If you do wish to learn, read my series on Calvinisn, esp. on U and I; it is linked on my front page."

What I wish to learn is why you are taking me on in such an offensive way? Can you not discuss things with me on the merits or are you simply given to ridiculing people you take issue with in ways to which they cannot respond?

HHobbes

[Jaltus]

For the record, White is in fact a prominent Calvinist.

[jpholding]

That's Elijah.

Yep. My bad.

I'm open to that line of discussion, care to explain why, other than it was "spectacularly phrased"?

It espouses fatalism, which is absurd. And as Jaltus noted, I have taken on the famous in this area...perhaps THE most famous, popularly speaking....

Ok, back to the Sproul comparison Dr. Holding, why take on Calvinists and rub up against a famous one?

I don't "rub up" on Sproul, actually. I find him personally offensive; ask him a question and the first thing he does is look at his watch.

What I wish to learn is why you are taking me on in such an offensive way?

Because people like you are part of the problem of why Christianity is an emasculated husk of its former self. However, if you show me you are willing to learn, you will be given a different venue. That is all.

[Jaltus]

I'd think Sproul is more populist than White (yes the term was intentional).

[HyperHobbes]

"Yep. My bad."

Ok then, let's play nicely. I like that a lot more.

"It espouses fatalism, which is absurd. And as Jaltus noted, I have taken on the famous in this area...perhaps THE most famous, popularly speaking...."

That the devil gets his own and that none of us God chooses are lost? There is no fatalism in my belief JP, I affirm that God purposed me from the before the beginning, and he keeps me. There is remarkable security in that. God making someone or something for profane use is documented several times in the Bible, not the least of which are Satan himself, and Judas. If it is wrong to make one or two that are fatally predisposed, how is it wrong to make a billion for such reasons? In fact my view is far more merciful because they were never alive to be treated unfairly in the first place. The "replica" or "Skin Job" remarks are directed at letting us know that we can't know. Indeed the lost have the imprint of God's image. We have no way of knowing who he has elected this side of eternity. I calmly and obediently go about the task of doing what God has asked and Evangelize all. In the end though I can confidently shake out my skirt because I know that their salvation is in his hands, not in my effort.

"I don't 'rub up' on Sproul, actually. I find him personally offensive; ask him a question and the first thing he does is look at his watch."

Ok, you're going back and forth again, if you find his major doctrine and his personal behavior offensive, why do you mention him? It would seem that it is only because he is a keyword that gets hit on from time to time.

"Because people like you are part of the problem of why Christianity is an emasculated husk of its former self. However, if you show me you are willing to learn, you will be given a different venue. That is all."

I have started a thread, for which you gave me an award, come, let us reason together.

HHobbes

[jpholding]

.That the devil gets his own and that none of us God chooses are lost?

I'm afraid I start my case at a much earlier point than that. You'll just have to read my material if you want to discuss it....to do so without that would be to pass as ships in the night.

And besides, I will be gone for much of the next two days anyway, and I have atheists on my plate.

Ok, you're going back and forth again, if you find his major doctrine and his personal behavior offensive, why do you mention him?

It was noted in light of your apparent joke of preterism as heretical. Never mind.

[HyperHobbes]

"I'm afraid I start my case at a much earlier point than that. You'll just have to read my material if you want to discuss it....to do so without that would be to pass as ships in the night."

There can be nothing earlier than before the foundations of the world.

"And besides, I will be gone for much of the next two days anyway, and I have atheists on my plate."

Bon Appétit!

HHobbes

[Darth Executor]

JP, I wrote a parody of Phantom of the Opera by Nightwish (I always thought that song was perfect for those suffering of JPHOCD) and had planned on getting somebody to sing it for the movie. That proved rather difficult so I doubt it's gonna get done which means that I might as well post it here. Original lyrics included. I tried to upload the song too but I guess it was too big.

Original

[Christine (Tarja):]
In sleep he sang to me, in dreams he came,
that voice which calls to me,
and speaks my name.
And do I dream again? For now I find
the phantom of the opera is there
inside my mind.

[Phantom (Marco):]
Sing once again with me our strange duet;
my power over you grows stronger yet.
And though you turn from me to glance behind,
the phantom of the opera is there
inside your mind.

[Christine (Tarja):]
Those who have seen your face
draw back in fear.
I am the mask you wear,

[Phantom (Marco):]
it's me they hear.

[Christine (Tarja) & Phantom (Marco):]
Your spirit and my voice in one combined;
the phantom of the opera is there
inside my/your mind.

[Voices:]
He's there the phantom of the opera.
Beware the phantom of the opera.

[Phantom (Marco):]
In all your fantasies, you always knew
that man and mystery

[Christine (Tarja):]
were both in you.

[Christine (Tarja) & Phantom (Marco):]
And in this labyrinth where night is blind,
the Phantom of the opera is here
inside my/your mind.

[Phantom (Marco):]
Sing, my angel of music!

Parody

[Jimbo]

In sleep he points at me, in dreams he mocks,
The voice which laughs at me
And ridicules my face.
And do I dream again? For now I find
James Patrick Holding is there
inside my mind.

[JP Holding:]
Lose once again to me, another debate;
Your humiliation by me grows stronger yet.
And though you turn from me to glance behind,
James Patrick Holding is there
inside your mind.

[Jimbo:]
Those who have seen your site
draw back in fear.
I am the trophy you wear.

[JP Holding:]
It's me they hear.

[JP Holding & Jimbo]

Your stupidity and my butt kicking in one combined;
James Patrick Holding is there
Inside my/your mind.

[Voices:]
He's there James Patrick Holding.
Beware James Patrick Holding.

[JP Holding:]
In all your obsessions, you always knew
that mocker and refuter

[Jimbo:]
Were both in you.

[Jimbo & JP Holding:]
And in this labyrinth where fundamentalism is blind,
James Patrick Holding is here
inside my/your mind.

[JP Holding:]
Sing, my fundy atheist cannon fodder!

[Doubting John]

Thanks for the nomination for my thread, "Jesus was not born a virgin in Bethlehem."

But wait!

Maybe, Jesus was born in sin after all!

Thank You.
Thank you very much......

Do I get a trophy if I win?

Should I drum up some support.....vote for DJ.


"DJ is your man,
If he can't make you to doubt...
Then nobody one can."

I liked that.

But actually, I nominate Tophet for some of the nasty things she's been saying in two spearate threads: "Where is God in Infinite Space," and, "Is there such a thing as an honest doubter."

As Christians you should shun her. She's the kind of person whom Jascha Heifetz wrote about when he said: "No matter what side of an argument you're on, you always find some people on your side that you wish were on the other side." Heh, heh.

She simply lacks in understanding. She couldn't even convince her own mother that she had wet her pants. Nor would she be able to understand her mother when she responds, "Go to the bathroom."

By the way, I'm not a hypocrite when I rarely trash people like Tophet as a person. I never said I cared for her in the first place, and I simply don't have any commands to love my (intellectual) enemies, like she does. But she is a hypocrite--most definitely.

And so......drum roll......let's hear it for Tophet.

Screwball of the month!

But since she's on your side of the argument, you won't agree with the truth.....because.............



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"YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!"

(Jack Nicholson--remember the movie?

Now go out and ride your bicycles, and when you're done I'll read you a story called, "See Spot Run." Afterward I'll let you have a lollipop and you can watch cartoons for the afternoon.

[Darth Executor]

Thanks for the nomination for my thread, "Jesus was not born a virgin in Bethlehem."

But wait!

Maybe, Jesus was born in sin after all!

Thank You.
Thank you very much......

Do I get a trophy if I win?

Should I drum up some support.....vote for DJ.


"DJ is your man,
If he can't make you to doubt...
Then nobody one can."

I liked that.

But actually, I nominate Tophet for some of the nasty things she's been saying in two spearate threads: "Where is God in Infinite Space," and, "Is there such a thing as an honest doubter."

As Christians you should shun her. She's the kind of person whom Jascha Heifetz wrote about when he said: "No matter what side of an argument you're on, you always find some people on your side that you wish were on the other side." Heh, heh.

She simply lacks in understanding. She couldn't even convince her own mother that she had wet her pants. Nor would she be able to understand her mother when she responds, "Go to the bathroom."

By the way, I'm not a hypocrite when I rarely trash people like Tophet as a person. I never said I cared for her in the first place, and I simply don't have any commands to love my (intellectual) enemies, like she does. But she is a hypocrite--most definitely.

And so......drum roll......let's hear it for Tophet.

Screwball of the month!

But since she's on your side of the argument, you won't agree with the truth.....because.............



scroll down....












more........
















"YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!"

(Jack Nicholson--remember the movie?

Now go out and ride your bicycles, and when you're done I'll read you a story called, "See Spot Run." Afterward I'll let you have a lollipop and you can watch cartoons for the afternoon.

When nominating somebody it's common courtesy to post quotes worthy of nomination.

[Higon]

Parody

Hey, this is pretty good! Why don´t you sing it yourself? It´s a parody anyway, a bit of out of tune singing would be welcome. Or instead of singing try to speak those lirics using some kind of accent.

[Piebald]

The syllables for the Phantom of the Opera parody are wrong . . however, they can be fixed easily, I think . . .

[Darth Executor]

The syllables for the Phantom of the Opera parody are wrong . . however, they can be fixed easily, I think . . .

Please elaborate.