The vision of 30,000+ Christian sects in the US alone, all pointing at all the others and saying they aren't Christian enough, is illuminating. There is only one Truth, but over 30,000 disputing parties each have it, while all the others do not.
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Originally posted by phank View PostThe vision of 30,000+ Christian sects in the US alone, all pointing at all the others and saying they aren't Christian enough, is illuminating.
There is only one Truth, but over 30,000 disputing parties each have it, while all the others do not.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by phank View PostThe vision of 30,000+ Christian sects in the US alone, all pointing at all the others and saying they aren't Christian enough, is illuminating. There is only one Truth, but over 30,000 disputing parties each have it, while all the others do not.
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Originally posted by phank View PostThe vision of 30,000+ Christian sects in the US alone, all pointing at all the others and saying they aren't Christian enough, is illuminating. There is only one Truth, but over 30,000 disputing parties each have it, while all the others do not.
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Originally posted by phank View PostThe vision of 30,000+ Christian sects in the US alone, all pointing at all the others and saying they aren't Christian enough, is illuminating. There is only one Truth, but over 30,000 disputing parties each have it, while all the others do not.
Further, every single Bible society or church club is considered to be a different denomination than the church or churches that it is affiliated with.
If you want to understand just how ridiculous this figure is try to name just twenty Christian denominations from memory alone. If there were tens of thousands of them you shouldn't have any difficulty rattling off a hundred so a mere twenty ought to be a real breeze.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostIf you want to understand just how ridiculous this figure is try to name just twenty Christian denominations from memory alone. If there were tens of thousands of them you shouldn't have any difficulty rattling off a hundred so a mere twenty ought to be a real breeze.
Greek Orthodox
Church of England, Anglican
Church of Scotland
Baptist
Southern Baptist
Methodist
Roman Catholic
7th Day Adventists
Church of Jesus Christ of the latter day saints
Unitarians
Tai-ping (starting to scrape the barrel here)
Westboro baptist
Russian Orthodox
Lutheran
Christian Scientists
Jehovah's witnesses
Albigensians
Dominicans
Franciscans
Trappists
Knights Templar
Order of St Stephen
Dutch Protestant
Church of Christ Computer Programmer
Marcionites
Revivalists
Order of St Titus
Mennonites
Branch Davidians
That's 29, but several of them are historical, and two are fictional. Still, I think I managed 20 from memory.
It was hard.
However, finding a few hundred shouldn't be a problem. Opening Brewer's at "Monk" immediately reminded me of the Benedictine order, as well as the Carthusians and Cistercians, and linked to the Augustinians and Carmelites, which led to the Catholic and Apostolic Church. Wikipedia lists dozens and dozens of them. It wouldn't surprise me if there actually were many thousands altogether.
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Originally posted by Roy View PostI can rarely resist a challenge.
Greek Orthodox
Church of England, Anglican
Church of Scotland
Baptist
Southern Baptist
Methodist
Roman Catholic
7th Day Adventists
Church of Jesus Christ of the latter day saints
Unitarians
Tai-ping (starting to scrape the barrel here)
Westboro baptist
Russian Orthodox
Lutheran
Christian Scientists
Jehovah's witnesses
Albigensians
Dominicans
Franciscans
Trappists
Knights Templar
Order of St Stephen
Dutch Protestant
Church of Christ Computer Programmer
Marcionites
Revivalists
Order of St Titus
Mennonites
Branch Davidians
That's 29, but several of them are historical, and two are fictional. Still, I think I managed 20 from memory.
It was hard.
However, finding a few hundred shouldn't be a problem. Opening Brewer's at "Monk" immediately reminded me of the Benedictine order, as well as the Carthusians and Cistercians, and linked to the Augustinians and Carmelites, which led to the Catholic and Apostolic Church. Wikipedia lists dozens and dozens of them. It wouldn't surprise me if there actually were many thousands altogether.
Roy
Many of those are cult groups. Which shows your understanding of religion to be quite lacking. Try again..."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
Many of those are cult groups. Which shows your understanding of religion to be quite lacking. Try again...
I'm more curious as to why he listed the Dominicans, Franciscans, Trappists, and other Roman Catholic religious orders as if they were denominations separate from Roman Catholicism."[Mathematics] is the revealer of every genuine truth, for it knows every hidden secret, and bears the key to every subtlety of letters; whoever, then, has the effrontery to pursue physics while neglecting mathematics should know from the start he will never make his entry through the portals of wisdom."
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
Many of those are cult groups. Which shows your understanding of religion to be quite lacking. Try again...The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Boxing Pythagoras View PostWhether or not they are "cult groups," they're still denominations of Christianity.
I'm more curious as to why he listed the Dominicans, Franciscans, Trappists, and other Roman Catholic religious orders as if they were denominations separate from Roman Catholicism."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostTBF, I think the point was that there's nowhere NEAR the 30,000 that was claimed."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Boxing Pythagoras View PostWhether or not they are "cult groups," they're still denominations of Christianity.
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostMany of those are cult groups. Which shows your understanding of religion to be quite lacking. Try again...
So which ones are cults? Or is it your own knowledge of religion that is lacking? I'd be extremely surprised if you even recognised all the names, let alone knew anything about them.
Not that it really matters whether they're cults or not, they're still Christian denominations - and one person's cult is another person's religion.
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Originally posted by Boxing Pythagoras View PostI'm more curious as to why he listed the Dominicans, Franciscans, Trappists, and other Roman Catholic religious orders as if they were denominations separate from Roman Catholicism.
RoyJorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Chrawnus View PostI would hardly call Mormons, Unitarians or Jehovah's witnesses Christian denominations. And I have a hard time believing any orthodox denomination would accept them as such either.
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MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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