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August 21st 2005, 10:23 PM #1
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Male - ChristianGiant structure supposedly from before written history.
http://www.ozfactors.com/Baalbek.html
http://www.destinationspace.net/ancient/baalbek.asp
Ignore the paranormal blabber. My friend buys everything he hears. I just wanted the opinion of somebody more qualified to give it on these structures. It certainly sounds interesting."Years ago, I mean decades ago, I read a quote about politicians performing quid pro quo favors for campaign cash, and whether or not we could prove it. The guy who was quoted opined that it was difficult to determine. He noted that in many cases, the payoff might not take the form of votes on legislative action -- those might be detectable, and so are avoided -- but could take subtler forms, like the question that is never asked at a hearing.
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August 21st 2005, 11:38 PM #2
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Re: Giant structure supposedly from before written history.
Originally posted by Darth Executor
I need to check a few things in some journals and find my copy of the Epic of Gilgamesh. But my first thought was Old Kingdom Egypt.
But given the total lack of any real info on these websites its going to take a while to track down Real Info on Baalbek, and it wont be recent info as the Bekaa Vally has been a No-go area since the early 70's.No trees were harmed in the making of this sig, However many electrons were truly disturbed
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August 27th 2005, 08:06 PM #3
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Male - Baha'iRe: Giant structure supposedly from before written history.
I have the same problem as bandicoot getting a clear handle on this one, but giant structures made by neolithic cultures are not that uncommon. Originally posted by Darth Executor
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August 28th 2005, 10:53 PM #4
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Male - JediRe: Giant structure supposedly from before written history.
Wikipedia has an entry on it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baalbek"Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose.
You are already naked. There is no reason not to follow your heart." — Steve Jobs
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August 29th 2005, 12:10 AM #5
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Male - ChristianRe: Giant structure supposedly from before written history.
The problem isn't just that it's big (if it was just that one could say they just carved a big rock and made it). The problem is that the quarry from which they got the stone was in a valley. They had to carry rock pieces bigger than the obelisks the romans tried to carry from egypt (and supposedly failed) UPHILL. Originally posted by shunyadragon
"Years ago, I mean decades ago, I read a quote about politicians performing quid pro quo favors for campaign cash, and whether or not we could prove it. The guy who was quoted opined that it was difficult to determine. He noted that in many cases, the payoff might not take the form of votes on legislative action -- those might be detectable, and so are avoided -- but could take subtler forms, like the question that is never asked at a hearing.
The media's doing a terrific job of not asking questions it doesn't want to know the answer to. It doesn't ask these questions in bulk, and the great volume of questions it doesn't ask makes it cheap to not ask questions.
And it passes these savings on to you, the customer." Ace
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August 30th 2005, 12:34 PM #6
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Male - ChristianRe: Giant structure supposedly from before written history.
I'm still being bugged on this by my friend. Somebody did the math at a nut site and said it's physically impossible to use ropes to pull it.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread165890/pg1"Years ago, I mean decades ago, I read a quote about politicians performing quid pro quo favors for campaign cash, and whether or not we could prove it. The guy who was quoted opined that it was difficult to determine. He noted that in many cases, the payoff might not take the form of votes on legislative action -- those might be detectable, and so are avoided -- but could take subtler forms, like the question that is never asked at a hearing.
The media's doing a terrific job of not asking questions it doesn't want to know the answer to. It doesn't ask these questions in bulk, and the great volume of questions it doesn't ask makes it cheap to not ask questions.
And it passes these savings on to you, the customer." Ace
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August 30th 2005, 12:47 PM #7
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Male - Unitarian UniversalistRe: Giant structure supposedly from before written history.
Originally posted by Darth Executor
That's what they said about the Easter Island structures, until somebody went over there and pulled them uphill with some ropes.Soundsurfr
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August 30th 2005, 02:47 PM #8
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Male - ChristianRe: Giant structure supposedly from before written history.
On second thought ignore that. The poster didn't deal with friction at all making his entire point useless.. Originally posted by Darth Executor
"Years ago, I mean decades ago, I read a quote about politicians performing quid pro quo favors for campaign cash, and whether or not we could prove it. The guy who was quoted opined that it was difficult to determine. He noted that in many cases, the payoff might not take the form of votes on legislative action -- those might be detectable, and so are avoided -- but could take subtler forms, like the question that is never asked at a hearing.
The media's doing a terrific job of not asking questions it doesn't want to know the answer to. It doesn't ask these questions in bulk, and the great volume of questions it doesn't ask makes it cheap to not ask questions.
And it passes these savings on to you, the customer." Ace
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August 30th 2005, 03:09 PM #9
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Male - ChristianRe: Giant structure supposedly from before written history.
It's surprisingly easy to move large masses with primitive means. You just have to stop thinking about the problems using a post-industrial revolution mindset.
Coral Castle in Florida shows what even one man can accomplish in this regard. The modern martial art of Akido also demonstrates what can be done with an understanding of weight, balance, and momentum.
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August 31st 2005, 10:01 AM #10
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Male - Baha'iRe: Giant structure supposedly from before written history.
The Romans may have failed, but te Egyptians were pretty successful at moving things around and up pyramids. Originally posted by Darth Executor
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August 31st 2005, 10:10 AM #11
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Female - ChristianRe: Giant structure supposedly from before written history.
I didn't think it was ever figured out how Coral Castle was built - there are some strange stories about it and the man himself.
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A wet bird never flies at night. -unknown [old Russian proverb]
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August 31st 2005, 11:23 AM #12
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Male - ChristianRe: Giant structure supposedly from before written history.
Actually after thinking about it I realised that dragging a big object isn't that difficult. The romans had to carry the obelisks they took from Egypt across the Mediterranean. Dragging it over muddy sand is quite a bit easier. Originally posted by shunyadragon
"Years ago, I mean decades ago, I read a quote about politicians performing quid pro quo favors for campaign cash, and whether or not we could prove it. The guy who was quoted opined that it was difficult to determine. He noted that in many cases, the payoff might not take the form of votes on legislative action -- those might be detectable, and so are avoided -- but could take subtler forms, like the question that is never asked at a hearing.
The media's doing a terrific job of not asking questions it doesn't want to know the answer to. It doesn't ask these questions in bulk, and the great volume of questions it doesn't ask makes it cheap to not ask questions.
And it passes these savings on to you, the customer." Ace
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August 31st 2005, 11:49 AM #13
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Male - ChristianRe: Giant structure supposedly from before written history.
From Edward Leedskalnin’s biography on the Coral Castle web site: Originally posted by Dee Dee Warren
“If anyone ever questioned Ed about how he moved the blocks of coral, Ed would only reply that he understood the laws of weight and leverage well.”
Most of us regulary move a weight of more than a hundred pounds safely, quickly, precisely, and without giving it a second thought: our own body. When you know the material -- be it stone, wood, whatever -- as well as you know your own flesh, the impossible becomes second nature.
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October 2nd 2005, 04:20 AM #14
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Male - ChristianRe: Giant structure supposedly from before written history.
Originally posted by Darth Executor
concerning the baalbek site: velikovsky claims this was the work of jeroboam who after solomon's death took the northern kingdom and built two temples, on in beth-el and the other in dan (baalbek), to ostensibly keep the northern tribes from traveling to jerusalem for worship/holy days. see the link below.
http://www.varchive.org/ce/baalbek/baalbek.htm
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October 2nd 2005, 04:28 AM #15
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Male - ChristianRe: Giant structure supposedly from before written history.
from varchive.org
Jeroboam, the man who supervised under Solomon the building of Millo, the fortress of Zion with its strong wall, and who, in recognition of his ability demonstrated in this work, was appointed governor of the northern provinces, now, when king, must have desired to erect in Dan a temple surpassing the magnificent Temple of Solomon in Jerusalem. Only in offering a more imposing building could he hope not only to turn the people from going to Jerusalem, but make the people of Judah elect a pilgrimage to Dan over one to Jerusalem. Meanwhile, Jeroboam had seen the temples and palaces of Egypt, and his ambition was, of course, to imitate all the splendor he had seen in Jerusalem, in Karnak, and in Deir el-Bahari. Or would this “mighty man of valor”, industrious constructor of Zion’s citadel, and a shrewd politician, try to contest the Temple of Jerusalem by means of an ignoble chapel? That he succeeded in his challenge is a testimony to the size and importance of the temple at Dan.
see I Kings 12:28-31
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