Rule of Faith

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This view makes Luke 10:20 meaningless.

Source: Luke 10:20

Nevertheless do not rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, but rather rejoice because your names are written in heaven.

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If everyone's name is written in the book of life until they die without Christ, what grounds are there for rejoicing? None. It's like a soccer league where everyone gets a trophy.

Because it is written, ". . . they that depart from me shall be written in the earth, because they have forsaken the LORD, the fountain of living waters." --Jeremiah 17:13.

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I frankly do not know how God handles that, but it doesn't mean what you think it means. Further, is this any worse than a view in which God blots out the name of everyone when they reach the age of accountability, whatever that is, and then writes them back in again if they become saved?
Except almost no one accepts Christ at the instant of the age of accountability.
Yes, you've said that already. Repeating it doesn't make it any more true, or provide further support.

Fine. You do not agree. The only two things you need to be convinced of here. It is what I understand to be true about names written in the book of life. And my view is not a contradiction of the word of God on this matter.

[One Bad Pig]

Because it is written, ". . . they that depart from me shall be written in the earth, because they have forsaken the LORD, the fountain of living waters." --Jeremiah 17:13.

This implies that the name is not written until departure. This refutes your interpretation rather than supporting it. Further, in context, this is part of a prayer to God, not a revelation from God. My Jewish translation captures this well:

Source: Jer 17:13 Artscroll English Tanakh

O HASHEM, Hope of Israel! May all who forsake You be ashamed; may those who turn aside from my [teachings] be inscribed [for burial in the earth]; for they have forsaken HASHEM, the Source of fresh water.

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In other words, the passage is talking about the prophet's desire, not the Word of the Lord.

Fine. You do not agree. The only two things you need to be convinced of here. It is what I understand to be true about names written in the book of life.

I have no issue with that.

And my view is not a contradiction of the word of God on this matter.

Your view is not a contradiction of your interpretation of the word of God on this matter. And you admit that your interpretation is nontraditional.

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This implies that the name is not written until departure. This refutes your interpretation rather than supporting it. Further, in context, this is part of a prayer to God, not a revelation from God. My Jewish translation captures this well:

Source: Jer 17:13 Artscroll English Tanakh

O HASHEM, Hope of Israel! May all who forsake You be ashamed; may those who turn aside from my [teachings] be inscribed [for burial in the earth]; for they have forsaken HASHEM, the Source of fresh water.

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In other words, the passage is talking about the prophet's desire, not the Word of the Lord.

1917 Jewish Publication Society Translation has: "Thou hope of Israel, the LORD! All that forsake Thee shall be ashamed; they that depart from Thee shall be written in the earth, because they have forsaken the LORD, the fountain of living waters."

And the current Tanakh English translation has: "The Lord who is the source of the hopes of Israel, all that forsake You shall be shamed, and they who turn away from me shall be marked out on the earth that they have forsaken the source of living waters, the Lord."

Your view is not a contradiction of your interpretation of the word of God on this matter. And you admit that your interpretation is nontraditional.

Only where tradition is contrary or different from the plain teaching of holy scripture. And then only in matters of interpretation which are not essentials to the genuine Christian faith.

[One Bad Pig]

Only where tradition is contrary or different from the plain teaching of holy scripture. And then only in matters of interpretation which are not essentials to the genuine Christian faith.

We disagree both on the "plain teaching" and what are the essentials.

[dacristoy]

Could it be that we are trespassing into ground that God has forbidden us to trod?

Romans 10:6-8King James Version (KJV)
6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
7 Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)
8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;