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September 3rd 2005, 02:34 PM #1
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Male - ChristianOne Question Calvinists Can't Answer
Why did God pick you and not your non-elect neighbor? If God takes nothing about the man into account, what logically distinguishes you from your neighbor? Look at it this way - you have two idenical lumps of clay in front of you - you want to make a lovely pot and a common pot - how do you choose which lump for which purpose?
"And all our yesterdays have lighted fools, the way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard no more: it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” Shakespeare
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September 3rd 2005, 02:49 PM #2
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Male - ChristianRe: One Question Calvinists Can't Answer
dont forget to put in the stipulation:
Originally posted by seer
In your attempted answer, try to avoid a question which begs an equivalent question. For example, avoid answers like "God's sovereign will". (This is simply to beg the question "Why did God's sovereign will decide to pick you and not your non-elect neighbor?)Have you the brain worms?!
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September 3rd 2005, 02:58 PM #3
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Female - Liberal XtianRe: One Question Calvinists Can't Answer
Let's also not fail to mention that the two lumps of clay are the most worthless kind of clay imaginable and how God chose to make one into a beautiful pot reflecting His own beauty for His glory and the other He'll despise and hate eternally because it's ugly and because He made it despicable and worthless to begin with.
If I have a mystical experience, an experience that's so overwhelming that I know now that there's a God, the cognitive fallout from that is irrelevant. The fact that that experience can be explained by psychologists in numerous ways is irrelevant to the fact that I now know.
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September 3rd 2005, 03:04 PM #4
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Male - ChristianRe: One Question Calvinists Can't Answer
lo and behold the clay was not clay at all but two piles of poopy.
Have you the brain worms?!
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September 3rd 2005, 03:06 PM #5
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Male - ChristianRe: One Question Calvinists Can't Answer
And if you say "it was done according to his secret will and his good pleasure", we'll call that a non-answer and re-state the original question to you again. ;-)
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September 3rd 2005, 03:30 PM #6
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Male - AtheistRe: One Question Calvinists Can't Answer
The Father, Jesus, and the HS play rock-paper-scissors, (ps this answers what they were doing in eternity past Originally posted by seer
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September 3rd 2005, 03:33 PM #7
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Male - ChristianRe: One Question Calvinists Can't Answer
but rock-paper-scissors is for only 2 participants not 3. Originally posted by studyhound
The Father, Jesus, and the HS play rock-paper-scissors, (ps this answers what they were doing in eternity past)Have you the brain worms?!
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September 3rd 2005, 03:56 PM #8
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Male - ChristianRe: One Question Calvinists Can't Answer
OK, so the Spirit referees? Originally posted by yxboom™
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September 3rd 2005, 04:53 PM #9
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Male - ChristianRe: One Question Calvinists Can't Answer
You guys are brutal.
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September 3rd 2005, 04:59 PM #10
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Male - ChristianRe: One Question Calvinists Can't Answer
You're not questioning calvinism. You're questioning God, and you guys need to stop.
"How many legs does a dog have if you call the tail a leg?
Four. Calling a tail a leg doesn't make it a leg." -Abraham Lincoln
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September 3rd 2005, 05:23 PM #11
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Male - ChristianRe: One Question Calvinists Can't Answer
Originally posted by TheAnalogman
You guys are brutal.
Thank-you. ;-)
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September 3rd 2005, 05:24 PM #12
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Male - ChristianRe: One Question Calvinists Can't Answer
No, they are questioning a false concept of God... Originally posted by john-philip
You're not questioning calvinism. You're questioning God, and you guys need to stop.
"And all our yesterdays have lighted fools, the way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard no more: it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” Shakespeare
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September 3rd 2005, 05:33 PM #13
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Male - ChristianRe: One Question Calvinists Can't Answer
Doesn't God have the right to choose someone out of His own free will? What makes Him choose someone instead of another is unknown to me, but He has a role in His Kingdom for everyone whom He has predestined. You're trying to find out something about God which is unknown to human minds, in the words of the psalmist, "Such knowledge is too wonderful for me, too high to understand."
My name is Ben, please call me that.
"A citizen of Zion is sincere in his religion. He is really what he professes to be...he is just...he speaks the truth in his heart...he speaks evil of no man...he makes the best of everybody and the worst of nobody." - Matthew Henry on Psalm 15.
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September 3rd 2005, 05:46 PM #14
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Male - ChristianRe: One Question Calvinists Can't Answer
Originally posted by Cheetah
Let me help you out here:
1) A Calvinist posted a question for which there is no logical anwer & titled the thread "The Question The Arminian Can't Answer"
2) That person included "instructions" on how to answer the question, as if he is in a place in instruct us.
3) So this thread is the same thing, but putting the proverbial "shoe on the other foot."
Make sense...?
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September 3rd 2005, 05:59 PM #15
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Male - ChristianRe: One Question Calvinists Can't Answer
Because He wanted to. Originally posted by seer
Nothing, all have sinned, there is none righteous, no not one. Originally posted by seer
Shall the lumps of clay instruct the potter? Originally posted by seer
Romans 1:20 "Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? 21 For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe." - NKJV
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