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    What led Nye to choose Ham (if that's the case) to have this debate with? Is there any background info that placed these two together.

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    Didn't watch it.

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    What led Nye to choose Ham (if that's the case) to have this debate with? Is there any background info that placed these two together.
    They're two very popular figureheads at what they do. Ham for YEC and Nye for popular science (especially since he was shown extensively in the classrooms I attended).

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    I dunno about Ham but Nye is a washed up has-been trying to jump start his long dead career. I guess he saw how popular Dawkins got and wanted a sweet piece of the rabidtheist pie.
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    Apparently Nye is on Dancing With The Stars too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManwŰ S˙limo View Post
    They're two very popular figureheads at what they do. Ham for YEC and Nye for popular science (especially since he was shown extensively in the classrooms I attended).
    I see, I don't know why but just thought Nye would want to debate a William Lane craig type apologetic

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    You're assuming people are wanting an actual debate of ideas instead of a theatrical event of sound bites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by princesa View Post
    I see, I don't know why but just thought Nye would want to debate a William Lane craig type apologetic
    Craig doesn't argue against evolution, and Nye's main point was to defend evolution in the public's eyes (because it is the main scientific concept that the public tends to have problems accepting). Nye wouldn't be interested in publicly going against Christianity by itself (and the other night he did allude to the fact that plenty of people do reconcile evolution with their faith).
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsGambit View Post
    Craig doesn't argue against evolution, and Nye's main point was to defend evolution in the public's eyes (because it is the main scientific concept that the public tends to have problems accepting). Nye wouldn't be interested in publicly going against Christianity by itself (and the other night he did allude to the fact that plenty of people do reconcile evolution with their faith).
    this makes more sense thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by princesa View Post
    What led Nye to choose Ham (if that's the case) to have this debate with? Is there any background info that placed these two together.
    It all started when Bill Nye made some very uninformed remarks about parents teaching their children creationism. You can watch it on youtube. Ken Ham responded likewise in video format. You can watch that one on youtube as well. Anyway, the conflict between them snowballed, made a few headlines, and culminated in this debate. The topic of the debate was about whether or not creationism is a "viable" scientific theory. Essentially, Nye thinks that creationism means that you're incapable of contributing to society in any meaningful way. He says that you won't be able to create vaccines, invent machines, or understand technology at all. Honestly, he is very, very uninformed about creationism and has a very distorted view of what entails from a Biblical worldview.

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