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.Should a Christian attend a gay wedding?
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostThere's been a few (heterosexual) weddings I've attended where I've disapproved of the marriages. I went anyway because I thought part of being a good friend / nice to my own family, is that you attend people's weddings with a smile on your face and give what support you can to friends as they celebrate a major event in their lives. If by not attending I could have prevented those weddings from happening, then I would have... but that wasn't an option. So given that the people were getting married and that I didn't have a choice in that decision, I felt my choices were between being a supportive friend and being a jerk. So when it comes to a same-sex wedding (which I've never yet been invited to), I would be inclined to think the same way: If my friends are celebrating what is to them a major event in their lives, then the choice seems to be between being a supportive friend and being a jerk. I mean, imagine how they would feel to receive my rejection of their invite to me if they knew I was actually rejecting their marriage (and not simply unable to attend their wedding due to other commitments) - seems like a guaranteed way to make people feel terrible on their wedding day, which seems like Class-A jerk material rather than something a friend would do.
1. Not be surprised when I chose not to attend.
Or
B. Not invite me in the first place.
And I don't like you calling us "jerks" for believing that homosexuality is against God's laws.
It's quite jerky of you, actually.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostThere's been a few (heterosexual) weddings I've attended where I've disapproved of the marriages. I went anyway because I thought part of being a good friend / nice to my own family, is that you attend people's weddings with a smile on your face and give what support you can to friends as they celebrate a major event in their lives. If by not attending I could have prevented those weddings from happening, then I would have... but that wasn't an option. So given that the people were getting married and that I didn't have a choice in that decision, I felt my choices were between being a supportive friend and being a jerk.
So when it comes to a same-sex wedding (which I've never yet been invited to), I would be inclined to think the same way: If my friends are celebrating what is to them a major event in their lives, then the choice seems to be between being a supportive friend and being a jerk.
I mean, imagine how they would feel to receive my rejection of their invite to me if they knew I was actually rejecting their marriage (and not simply unable to attend their wedding due to other commitments) - seems like a guaranteed way to make people feel terrible on their wedding day, which seems like Class-A jerk material rather than something a friend would do.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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The thing is, the Scriptures are very clear that a marriage is to be between a male and female. The Scriptures are equally clear that same sex relationships of any kind are NOT acceptable. If we are to believe that Jesus is the fulfillment of the Law and the prophets, we have to pay very close attention to what he has to say. He just as clearly states that marriage is to be between a male and female.
If we are to be true to his teachings, we cannot support same sex marriage in any way. Your argument concerning heterosexual marriage would work only for yourself...it's not a universal rule like that of Scriptural directives concerning same sex unions. If one doesn't approve of the marriage, one doesn't need to go or may choose to because of whatever. But for same sex marriages, a Christian, knowing what the Lord had to say, must refrain period.Last edited by DesertBerean; 02-08-2014, 08:52 PM.Watch your links! http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/fa...corumetiquette
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And this thread is specifically, "Should a Christian . . ." Any argument outside that is irrelevant.Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostIt's a matter of principle. And what do you mean "gained"? They won't cancel their function simply because I don't show up.
Maybe we should ban marriage between a man and a woman because they are both (e.g.) Muslims or Baptists. On principle.
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Originally posted by mossrose View PostThe way I see it is, if they are good enough friends with me to invite me to the so-called wedding, then they will know how I feel about same-sex marriage in the first place, and would either:
1. Not be surprised when I chose not to attend.
Or
B. Not invite me in the first place.
And I don't like you calling us "jerks" for believing that homosexuality is against God's laws.
It's quite jerky of you, actually.
Would you invite a gay to your so-called wedding?
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Originally posted by avery View PostAbsolutely. Marriage is about love not religion."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
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Originally posted by avery View PostWhat principle would that be? Are you opposed to 2 people who are in love sharing their lives together and having that love publicly recognized?
Maybe we should ban marriage between a man and a woman because they are both (e.g.) Muslims or Baptists.
On principle.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by avery View PostWhat makes you think I am not a Christian? Is it because I think that same sex marriages should be legalised?
"What principle would that be? Are you opposed to 2 people who are in love sharing their lives together and having that love publicly recognized?"
I suppose it's possible that you're an extremely retarded Christian but it seems more likely that you're not one at all hence my question. Don't have a cow, man."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
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I'm curious about two variants of the original question:
How would you respond if you were invited to a gay civil union? (Would you be more likely to go to that than a wedding?)
How would you respond if you were invited to a non-Christian (heterosexual) wedding?
I'm curious to know if people who have said they wouldn't attend a same-sex wedding would attend in either of those other cases.
Also, would it make any difference to people, if the people inviting you to their same-sex marriage were not Christians? I ask this because we tend to think of marriage as a Christian institution in part, I think, because the marriages we attend are Christian ceremonies (of the couple of dozen weddings I've personally attended, they were all Christian ones), but of course it must be true that people of other religions (and atheists) get married and obviously they don't perceive of marriage as a Christian ceremony or institution (and we generally have no issue acknowledging the validity of their marriages as marriages). I can understand people thinking that the concept of Christian marriage is incompatible with same-sex marriage, but not all marriages are Christian marriages and the Christian church doesn't have a worldwide monopoly on the idea of marriage. So if a same-sex couple were to have a non-Christian wedding ceremony is that less offensive than them having a Christian one and implying their same-sex marriage is a Christian marriage? (I guess this is sort of the "would it be okay if it was a civil union" question phrased subtly differently...)"I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
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"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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I wouldn't go if it were called a civil union either. Why? I have no interest. Yes, I would probably attend ceremony of a different religion between a man and a woman, depending. If the couple that invited me is offended by my graceful decline so be it
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